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General Category => Substance Abuse => Topic started by: Thrash on July 06, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
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This is reposted from a FaceBook conversation I had recently ...
I just thought that it'd be good to repost ...
Michael:
... I wish I had never started smoking... It's such a slow, boring day at work... I am trying so hard to fight the urge to get a pack of smokes on my lunch :
This shit sucks... Anyone know where I can get one if those electronic cigarettes in Pinellas or Hillsborough county?
Dave Thrash:
Vaping, bro ...
It costs about $10-$15/mo after the initial $40 for the e-cigarettes and you can have any flavor you could want ...
http://www.myvaporstore.com/... (http://www.myvaporstore.com/...) See More
I haven't bought a pack of smokes in 3 months, I've smoked FEW cigs (called analogs to us Vapists), and I've spent about $10/mo in eFluids that I have in Marlboro, Grape, Clove, and Strawberry ...
I ? VAPING!
Oh, and I know of another place to get eFluid for under $10 shipped ...
But, for the cost, and the fast shipping, go where I said ...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/ (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/) - everything you need to know ...... See More
I've been doing it for months now ... You can do it anywhere ... All it is is water, glycerine, flavoring, and your choice of nicotine strength (or none at all) ... It's cheaper, safer, and it works ... I'll even help you set it all up ... the Joye 510 is the BEST e-cigarette out there, I am vaping one right now ...
eCigarettes are graded and rated on three major factors;
1) Vapor production
2) Throat hit
3) Overall quality
The Joye 510, for the cost, is the best deal out there ...
Richard:
yeah.. I think I need to invest in one too.. its so much cheaper then the cigarettes. my question is how much is one cartridge equal to in cigarettes?
Dave Thrash:
It depends, as I'm refilling mine all the time, but it's between 10-15 cigs worth, at about 10 drags a session, on average ...
Richard:
so one cartridge is about a pack depending how you smoke give or take a few cigarettes
Dave Thrash:
Right, in theory ... It also depends upon the nicotine content of your eFluid, be it low, medium, high, very high, ultra high, or none ...
All you do is pull the cartridge off, and either top it off, or at the beginning of a day, you pull the filling out, fill it half way, replace the filling, and then top it off ... Then, you spend $25 more bux and get the PCC (personal charging case) which is the size of a pack of smokes, and recharge it as you go on with your ... See Moreday ... It holds a battery, 2-5 cartridges, an atomizer and at night you recharge it via USB/plug ... they ALL come with chargers though, so the PCC isn't necessary ...
Remember to get extra eFluid as well ...
I also suggest getting it with vegetable glycerin or buying some on the side (from a health food store; it's cheap) and cut it with that for more vapor ... You can get eFluid in 1000's of flavors and a 30ml bottle lasts about a month, give or take; especially of you cut it 2/3 eFluid-1/3 VG ... I LOVE the Strawberry, and I mix it with Marlboro; both medium or high nicotine content since I cut it with VG before I vape ...
Remember to get extra eFluid as well ...
I also suggest getting it with vegetable glycerin or buying some on the side (from a health food store; it's cheap) and cut it with that for more vapor ... You can get eFluid in 1000's of flavors and a 30ml bottle lasts about a month, give or take; especially of you cut it 2/3 eFluid-1/3 VG ... I LOVE the Strawberry, and I mix it with Marlboro; both medium or high nicotine content since I cut it with VG before I vape ...
Also, you want to have an extra battery, unless you you get the PCC, as the Joye 510 is one of the best, especially for the cost, however, the battery's not as good as it could be and takes an hour to charge fully ... Just a side note ...
Richard:
is there a replacement battery that may last longer Dave?
Dave Thrash:
You can buy high-efficiency atomizers and high capacity batteries, however, I find that the stock ones work well, just always charge your other battery or use a PCC ...
Another thing to say is that you don't smoke it like an "analog" cigarette, you take deeper, slower drags and inhale/exhale as normal ...
EDIT: Added update and corrected title ...
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Introduction of electronic cigarette
(... as taken from an eCigarette site)
An electronic cigarette, otherwise known as a personal vaporizer, is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine by way of a vaporized solution. It is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. In addition to nicotine delivery, this vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, while no tobacco, smoke, or combustion is actually involved in its operation.
An electronic cigarette usually takes the form of some manner of elongated tube, though many are designed to resemble the outward appearance of real smoking products, like cigarettes, cigars, and pipes. A common design is also the "pen-style", so named for its visual resemblance to a ballpoint pen. Most electronic cigarettes are reusable devices with replaceable and refillable parts. A number of disposable electronic cigarettes have also been developed.
Smokers know that traditional smoking is harmful to their health. Yet, for some it is a relaxing or social experience they are not ready to give up. Beyond addiction to nicotine, there are rituals many smokers enjoy that delay their quest to seek ways to stop. Modern technology has a way of catching up and making our lives just a little easier. Possibly one of the greatest new discoveries is that of the electronic cigarette.
The electronic cigarette is basically a device that looks like a cigarette, delivers "smoke" and nicotine, and allows the smoker to enjoy the smoking experience. So if the smoker is still smoking, how can there be advantages?
To begin, because the electronic cigarette is electric, it runs on batteries. This means no lighters, no matches, and no actual flame. At the end of most e-cigarettes is a small light that glows when taking a puff. If you are to drop it or put it down, there is no fire to catch onto anything. Batteries give three advantages. There is no flame so fires are less likely to occur. The consumer will no longer need to purchase lighter fluid, lighters or matches, making for much less pollution. And the batteries are rechargeable, also adding to less waste.
The smoke emitted from an e-cigarette is not really smoke but just a vapor. It lasts just long enough to give the appearance of being smoke, but quickly disappears into thin air. There is no hovering cloud of smoke or second hand smoke. Since there is no smoke, the smell does not permeate clothing, hair, and surroundings like real smoke. No second hand smoke makes the use of electronic smoking devices safe around friends and family. The lack of saturating or offensive odors and no dangerous emissions make e-cigarettes sociably friendly.
A cartridge for the electronic cigarette can last the equivalent of 2 packs of cigarettes. When comparing waste left behind from smoking, this cartridge uses far less resources than the production and waste left from even one pack of cigarettes. Instead of as many as 40 cigarette butts and 2 empty boxes, there is one small cartridge and mouthpiece. This makes for savings in personal space when traveling. Gas is saved in the transport of product refills. And landfill pollution has just been greatly reduced.
While the cost of tax on tobacco increases, the cartridges used with smoking an e-cigarette are not subject to those taxes. E-cigarettes can cut the cost of smoking in half or more. In addition, patches and other quit smoking medications can be just as expensive as cigarettes. While the e-cigarette has not been proven to be an official smoking cessation device, it does provide a healthier alternative to smoking without the side effects caused by the patch and medicines. A smoker can cut their smoking costs in half and reduce the risks of tobacco smoking by avoiding those 4000 toxins found in regular cigarettes.
Finally, because electric cigarettes are not considered smoking, they are legal in more places. This means you can use the device in some restaurants and places where it is unacceptable to smoke. This alone could be the biggest advantage to a smoker. Many apartments and rentals require non-smoking tenants. Users of e-cigarettes are not considered smokers.
These advantages are just the beginning. Perhaps with research, e-smoking can eventually be used as a successful replacement for smokers, and lead to permanent nicotine reduction for those wishing to do so in the future. For now, it is definitely something for every smoker to consider as a better, considerably less toxic way to smoke.
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Meh. 8 months cold turkey next week. Stop fucking with expensive shit and just stop. If I can do it after 30 years (and dude, you know how much I smoked, we spent more time on the sidewalk than in the bar) anyone can. Spend your money on a cool glass dildo collection.
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Actually, I rather LIKE vaping ....
I'm ok with it ....
... and it's cheap as fuck to do
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What the fuck is an eFluid?
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You are all missing the point ....
It costs less than $10US/month to do and you can "smoke" all you want ....
A MONTH!
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We're talking about tobacco, though, no?
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No, they are talking about nicotine without tobacco. No burning, just electronically stimulated vapors.
Blu Cigs | Electronic Cigarettes | * NEW-ONLY $59.95 at offto.net/ecigarettes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7wQetGkWU&feature=player_embedded#normal)
http://www.ecigarettes365.com/blue_electronic_cigarettes (http://www.ecigarettes365.com/blue_electronic_cigarettes)
Oh and they have LED's too, makes it look more cool.
The word is Vapid.
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OK, but, um, why?
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They need their fix?
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Yeah, I get nicotine and none of the other shit that goes with tobacco ...
It's a really good, really cheap alternative ...
... and in any flavor I want!
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kumquat ?
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I'm sure someone out there has it ...
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Watermelon sounds like a cool flavor.
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Yeah, I get nicotine and none of the other shit that goes with tobacco ...
It's a really good, really cheap alternative ...
... and in any flavor I want!
Dude, just fucking quit, FFS. I know it's not easy but it's not that hard either.
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NONONO, I LOVE VAPING, dude ...
I've also discovered that rather than a cartridge and an atomizer, I prefer cartomizers ....
Lots of vape, it holds more fluid, and it just rocks ...
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So what does it do for you?
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Si stop asking silly questions. HE'S A FUCKING NICOTINE ADDICT JUST LIKE WE WERE AND HE'S MAKING EXCUSES THAT WILL STILL GET HIM AN EARLY GRAVE.
I should bring pics of my mother all wasted away just before she died 10 years ago. My sister showed them to me at Thanksgiving dinner and that was the last day I smoked.
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There is something Dylan about this thread.
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in that only blokes have posted in it?
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NONONO, I LOVE VAPING, dude ...
I've also discovered that rather than a cartridge and an atomizer, I prefer cartomizers ....
Lots of vape, it holds more fluid, and it just rocks ...
Do you refill?
A double demo! The Cartomizer Condom Filling Method, and the Taryn Spin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnPWfGkhnF4#normal)
My kid thinks you can refill them with hash oil.
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He uses either premium butane or ether as a solvent. Passes it through good chopped up bud and uses it to extract the essential oils. The butane or ether evaporates leaving the THC bearing oils behind.
Hey Thrash do you thing that weed oil could be used in one of your vape cartomizers as my son believes?
I think the Cuban cigar version,
http://store.vapor4life.com/Vapor_King_Cuban_Cigar_Cartomizers_p/vk-cigar.htm (http://store.vapor4life.com/Vapor_King_Cuban_Cigar_Cartomizers_p/vk-cigar.htm)
from here
http://store.vapor4life.com/Vapor_King_Cartomizers_s/2.htm (http://store.vapor4life.com/Vapor_King_Cartomizers_s/2.htm)
would be a candidate if it is possible?
Adding:
Umm I think most drugs will be delivered this way in the somewhat near future.
I have a headache, here puff on this aspirin stick. LOL
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BTW, I still want to change my sig damit.
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Hey man, 10 fuckin' years ago nobody could even sign up at the board (of that time), we were promised free web-based email which never worked and tshirts which never arrived. Not being able to change a sig is pretty damn minor, no?
Not that we have email or tshirts, mind you, but at least registration_is_up, no?
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Yeah, but we all gotta bitch about something.
The sig thing is a built in feature of the board system, a built in feature that has been broken here for too damn long now with no good reason. We don't even have the option of turning them off now.
Thrash, Fix it G dam it.
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On it ...
... and, yes, you can do THC and/or weed oil, you just have to cut it with organic vegetable glycerine
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The regular email didn't work all the time, but you could telnet on and send all of the spoof email you wanted. Personal favorites: sending people email from their own email address, from the white house, from professors, from other anti-social users...
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That could explain a few rather weird exchanges I had... but i'll never, given the types that posted, know.
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I got some eFluids for ya.
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Wow, that came off as random ...
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So did your timing.
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I know someone who has an electronic cigarette. it even lights up when she puffs and theres some stuff in it so she can still puff. apparently its really good.
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I love mine ...
... I have 3 different types
... and a lot of different flavored efluids
VAPING RULES!
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Hahahaha watch out, Dave!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/electronic-cigarette-explodes-mans-mouth.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/02/electronic-cigarette-explodes-mans-mouth.html)
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I bet it was the battery that exploded.
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If you choose a good, reliable brand, and not a Joye knock-off, you won't have these issues ...
"Truck Stop eCigs" are the worst ... They are cheap "Joye 510s" and suck balls ...
If you want the best, get yourself a Joye 510 EGO with a Boge (2.0 ohm) cartomizer ...
... also, get QUALITY fluids!
http://www.madvapes.com (http://www.madvapes.com) is the best ...
The best stuff, all around, excellent customer service, and FAST shipping!
... tell 'em I sent you!
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The day I buy a "Joye 510 EGO with a Boge (2.0 ohm) cartomizer" is the day I figure out some way to rig said Joye 510 EGO with a Boge (2.0 ohm) cartomizer to fire bullets, and then I will shoot myself in the face.
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You underplay it, however, Melissa and I have all but quit smoking with 'em ...
... I really like doing it
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The fuck you have! You're clearly just as addicted as ever, because you're now willing to spend money on fucking nicotine vapor. You don't even get the damn satisfaction of that delicious smoke in your lungs - the fuck good is that?!
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Si the good is that when I visit them, they don't smell like ashtrays and they can vape in front of me and it doesn't harm me or trigger cravings, and they truly aren't hurting anyone but themselves so I don't care.
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no es cremen...
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It's better tasting than cigarettes, it's got better throat hit than cigarettes, and there's more vapor than smoke, so it's more satisfying, a fraction of the cost, and it's just awesome-sauce ...
I don't deny that I/we're addicted; it's just an over-all better way to ingest it ...
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I've heard that several children have been poisoned by second hand vaporers, and many people have been poisoned by spilling the liquid on their hands as well as several animals being poisoned by discarded cartridges.
What say you?
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If you mix them yourself, or if you get anything above 16mg (1.6) [2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 3.2] of nicotine, it's possible ...
For the general populace, if you get 8mg (.8) or lower, there's little risk ...
MOST people know to wash their hands if it gets on them;
they also know to keep shit like this out or reach of children ...
Those that don't; well .... "natural selection" ...
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Reminds me of that retarded bitch in charge of the DEA.
"Please think of the dogs before legalizing marijuana."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HrHecD8JhfY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HrHecD8JhfY)
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/03/DEA-chief-Think-about-dogs-before-legalizing-pot/1881396546791/ (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/04/03/DEA-chief-Think-about-dogs-before-legalizing-pot/1881396546791/)
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Someone's got something stupid to say about everything, man ....
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I'm not sure about this but it has been suggested that the exhaled product of eCigarettes is just as bad for bystanders as second hand smoke from old-school cigs? Without the telltale smoke to warn you-you are in danger-of course.
Man I remember how the smoke from my moms cigs used to hang in the air in thick layers, I played in that shit! It was fun!
They killed her though.
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Nah, it dissipates too quickly and has only 2 or 3 of the 4,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke ...
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Well the smoke goes away but what about the 13 chemicals?
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She's recently graduated college with an Master's ...
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I'm so proud of her.
She had good taste in music too.
Wait, what was her major?
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Accounting ...
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I could use her. Well I wish I could use her. LOL
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I can let her know ...
Oh, and she just got married (for real; and not that yokel yutz she divorced) this past year as well ...
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Have you been keeping up correspondence with Sash on the side?
You sly dog.
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For as long as I've had FACEBOOK ....
(... and the other 16+ years of being online with you AS/LG fucks)
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Shit man, I actually have a Facebook account in the name CodePirate, I logged in a week or so ago and then it started popping up a Janrain window every time I posted anywhere asking if I wanted to share my post?
I put an end to that but lots of places are now trying to force posters to log in using Janrain so that their posts are shared across whatever social networks you frequent.
Seems like a fucked situation to me.
Nice that you have kept in touch with Sasha though.
Tell her to post for crying out loud.
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I'll mention it to her ...
Yeah, more and more sites are "login via ..." these days ...
.... it's getting a little out of hand
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Thanks that's all I could ask for is for some of the original posters to bless us with their presence.
Sash I love you girl and feel depleted by your your abstinence.
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What the fuck was my last post all about? Meh never mind.
Anyway hey Thrash there is new research on E cigarettes.
It seems they emit toxic metals!
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/14477/20140829/e-cigarettes-emit-harmful-second-hand-smoke-full-of-toxic-metals.htm (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/14477/20140829/e-cigarettes-emit-harmful-second-hand-smoke-full-of-toxic-metals.htm)
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Meh, still less than tobacco ...
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Hey, what do you think about these?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CcGMeTiOU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CcGMeTiOU#)
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I have a lot of different opinions about mods, mod kits, and different batteries and tanks ...
Do you have a question about any one (or few) in particular?
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Nope, but these are mostly designed for smoking weed in bud form.
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Amazingly blatant:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZLFwPPYHw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZLFwPPYHw#)
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Wow!
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Big Clive has a current take on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTI0CuPvOB0
But be aware he also demonstrated this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcDgOGC5Lcc
Hahahahahahahaha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzpQWrocrkQ
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I'm pretty versed on them ...
I almost opened a shop a few years back ...
Hindsight ...
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So, I've tried all kinds of pens, sticks, mods, and boxes ...
I'm REALLY loving the Boulder Rock ....
The device is small, simple, and lasts a long time ...
It's well-made, versatile, and good for Mouth-To-Lung or straight vaping ...
The elements for it are easy to fill, last a long time, and produce good vapor ...
It's also REALLY CHEAP ...
$9.99-$14.99 ...
It comes with 10ml of fluid at 18mg ... (which I don't care that much about) ...
I empty the bottles and use it with MY fluids since it's a needle-tip bottle and it's small and easy to carry ...
Check it out here (and other reviews)
https://www.electrictobacconist.com/boulder-rock-kit-p1294
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That is a really nice kit for ten bucks. I'm tempted to buy it for a friend ... or two.
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I'm pretty versed on them ...
I almost opened a shop a few years back ...
Hindsight ...
LOL in the 70's I wanted to open a disco joint. Well disco was a thing at the time and I loved the black lights and lighting effects and the idea of owning a night club haunted me. Well disco was dead in short order and like roller rinks, disco went away. I also wanted to own a hotel. Well, still do. But location location location as someone once said.
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However, if you hit just right you could have made your money and made it into an 80's rock house ...
And you should; it's the PERFECT e-cig for a beginner ...
I've been using them for years (as I said, I have all the mods/boxes/etc) and I pretty much keep
2 of these with me at all times and alternate between charges ...
I prefer it ...
If I hit it regular, it's like a cigarette; hit it harder, it's a great vape ...
It's WELL worth the $10 ...
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Boulder Rock Kit - Best Fucking Deal Ever (https://www.electrictobacconist.com/boulder-rock-kit-p1294)
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Buy where is the cannabis oil? They have Hemp Oil in the local market now, basically the same as CBD oil. I bought some of the CBD oil for may cat who had stopped eating but it didn't help and he died anyway. But since I only used a couple doses the pet shop said I could bring it back for a full refund which was a good thing because that little bottle was $27 after taxes.
The hemp oil is only about $6 for the same amount. Made from farmed Cannabis Sativa in Canada.
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Yeah ...
Big Pharma could lose up to $18B if just a few more states legalize cannibis ..