Just got our census form (short one) and am HORRIFIED!!!

WTF?!?

There are NOW only 5 races that folks can be? White; Black; Asian; Indian; or Pacific Islander. (And PACIFIC ISLANDER??? WTF is THAT about? They're ASIAN!)

Well, here's what I think it's about:

Native Hawaiians will be given preferencial treatment, as our newest MINORITY.

All Hispanics will now be known as White folks, since actual white folks have become the minority, and THAT cannot be allowed.

Am I totally out in the ozone on this, and/or what do YOU think is going on?

I'm still thinking of sending it in saying I'm a Mexican family of 12 ...

Hispanic/Latino is not a race.  They are an ethnic group.

It is a separate question.  It was last time, too. 

Fyr... Call a samoan or maori 'asian'... I dare you.

Pacific Islanders are melanesian or polynesian. Indians are Australoids, same as Abo's. Niggers are negroid. Whiteys are caucasoid. East Asians are mongolids.

Hispanics as you know them are mixed race.

STFU beaners are from Mexico.

Who cares what the race is... the important thing is who is winning.

Yeah, see I think mexicans would fall into the indian race, rather than white,

but I also thought EVERYONE was of the Human Race, and that we ALL started out somewhere in Africa,

so ...

But, okay, explain to me how Japanese asians and Chinese asians AREN't the same race, again?


p.s.  How much does anyone want to bet that all the mexicans are going to fill in the "Other" race option with:

(wait for it ... )

MEXICAN?


As far as honesty on the thing is concerned, I read about fines of up to $500 PER ANSWER for lying on it,

and fines of up to $100 per answer for leaving them blank.

wEnder how much the fine for purposefully putting it in the envelope the wrong way is going to be?  rofl!!!

Fyr... Call a samoan or maori 'asian'... I dare you.

Well, not that they ARE asian, but they're descended from asian peoples, and if asian is a race ...

Michele Bachmann says not to participate iss good nuff for me. This is clearly part of the whole Ayers/Acorn thing. I mean do you ever remember filling out a "Census 2010" form BEFORE Obama came into office? Show us your birth certificate, friend!

I read Fyr's post... I need to lie down for a bit.

People can believe whatever they want, that doesn't change the meaning of the words.  "Mexican" is not a race.  It isn't even an ethnicity.  It is a nationality.

They built a fence for Luke. They're Mexican.

nggres

I guess what I was trying to say was:

Look, if we're ALL members of the HUMAN RACE?  Then the ONLY differences amongst us are our ethnic ones.

And, please!  GUAMANIAN as a RACE?!?  Or HAWAIIAN?!?  Shit, WE'VE been there, as well as the Japanese, for over a hundred years, so ALL they could be is a Mixed race.


As an aside, I find it absolutely AMAZING (in the most horrible sort of way) that our GOV and doctors are ENCOURAGED to "profile" us,

but our police are PUNISHED for it.

Another one of those:  If It's A Good Idea?  It's A Good Idea For EVERYONE!  thangs.

Racial profiling by doctors is ok because some diseases are more prevalent among particular racial groups.

The government is interested in part because they develop statistical measurements of things like education level in racial groups, earnings in racial groups, etc.  Because contrary to the post racial talk, racism is alive and well.

Racial profiling by police is inherently unfair and reinforces racial biases, as well as may be completely ineffective according to many studies.

That's why race is ok to consider in some instances and not under others.

They built a fence for Luke. They're Mexican.

... yet, it still didn't stop the swine flu

My census form reveals that I am a lesbian living with my white Mexican girlfriend.

Nice ...

I'll watch porn from anywhere

Oklahoma?

Racial profiling by doctors is ok because some diseases are more prevalent among particular racial groups.

The government is interested in part because they develop statistical measurements of things like education level in racial groups, earnings in racial groups, etc.  Because contrary to the post racial talk, racism is alive and well.

Racial profiling by police is inherently unfair and reinforces racial biases, as well as may be completely ineffective according to many studies.

That's why race is ok to consider in some instances and not under others.

I don't know if you know this or not, but doctors are also profiling for intelligence.

And I still stand with:  If it's a Good Idea?  It's a Good Idea for EVERYONE.  Whatever made it a good idea for one group, makes it a good idea for ALL groups,

ACROSS THE BOARD.

Unfortunately, Emp, you've fallen for the lies, believing that racism lives in HUGE segments of our population, and I'm sorry, but I don't believe it.  What I DO believe is that you have to be LOOKING for it in order to find it,

and if you're focused on finding something, you're much more sensitive to any little thing to grab hold of to prove your point.

The excuses that the gov gives for needing to know our races is absolutely BOGUS.  We're ALL Americans, and our gov should care about the American people, and bringing us together,

not FURTHER segregating us.

Until NO ONE gets special treatment (good OR bad) based on the color of their skin, there will be racism.  (It goes BOTH ways, see?)

When you "help" someone?  You're saying that you're better than they are.  You, for whatever reason, are in a better position than they are, and you honestly don't expect them to be able to rise to the challenges of their lives, not like you were able to.

So, who's the racist and who's the friend?

You can't address existing structural and institutional biases if you throw your hands up in the air and say, "everyone is equal."  It is simply not true.  The numbers on education, income, etc. indicate that it is not true based on both race and gender.  You don't have to look very hard at the numbers to see it play it.  

Helping people is certainly not "saying that you are better than they are."  On the level of government, it is trying to address long standing inequalities that continue to exist.

DON'T YOU GET IT?!?  To our GOV, WE SHOULD ALL BE CONSIDERED EQUAL!!!

Our fucking country was BUILT on that Big Idea, for crying out loud!

A: So we shall never read anything form you about Obama not being born in the USA, cause it dont matter cause he is a citizen.
B: Wrong.  Equality had nothing to do with it. It was about money (taxes) and how it was used.

or

B: it was built on somebody elses land.

Your choice.

You can't address existing structural and institutional biases if you throw your hands up in the air and say, "everyone is equal."  It is simply not true.  The numbers on education, income, etc. indicate that it is not true based on both race and gender.  You don't have to look very hard at the numbers to see it play it.  

Helping people is certainly not "saying that you are better than they are."  On the level of government, it is trying to address long standing inequalities that continue to exist.

Fuckin' amen, man.

We're all members of the HUMAN Race,

Enough. I don't think you understand the term. Race is a quasi-biological term used to refer to an inbreeding population within a species distinguishable by differing heritable characteristics. (NOTE: Inbreeding in this context means breeding within the population, not within the nuclear family or anything like that.) H. Sapiens sapiens could be considered a "race" as distinct from H. Sapiens idaltu, but as it is used commonly the term is applied to what biologically should only be considered sub-races. Does this mean that the common usage is imprecise and uneducated?

I would argue not.

Sub-species (i.e. racial) identification along gradients within a species is very common. I think it's sloppy, but ultimately this system of biological classification itself is sloppy. There is no clearly defined definition of a species. We speak of the "species concept," but the concept is so frequently excepted and so situationally applied that it is just as inaccurate as referring to traditional vernacular "races" as "races."

I mean, would you prefer the term used on the Census was "sub-race?" What an arbitrary and meaningless distinction to draw.

DON'T YOU GET IT?!?  To our GOV, WE SHOULD ALL BE CONSIDERED EQUAL!!!

Our fucking country was BUILT on that Big Idea, for crying out loud!

A: So we shall never read anything form you about Obama not being born in the USA, cause it dont matter cause he is a citizen.
B: Wrong.  Equality had nothing to do with it. It was about money (taxes) and how it was used.

or

B: it was built on somebody elses land.

Your choice.

I'm afraid you're wrong ~ Equal representation of EVERY CITIZEN is what it was about,

and the term Citizen, and the rights OF a citizen, were DEFINED.

Oh.  And please don't let the fact that I refrain from, once again, producing the PROOF that Obama isn't a US citizen somehow convince you that I miraculously changed my mind and now believe the lies.  I still don't.

But, hey!  If you'd pass over a little of whatever it is you're smoking/snorting/slamming, perhaps I too can become an enlightened proponent of bald-faced lies.

Well at least you're consistent.

I'm afraid you're wrong ~ Equal representation of EVERY CITIZEN is what it was about,

yeah... You really believe that ?  You ? You dont think it had anything to do with the fact that having more control over where taxation $ was spent by having reps and the chance for people to profit from that had nothing to do with it ?  You... ha.

Sorry...  You can't be suspicious of the motives of people with power and believe the revolution was all 'for the greater good'.

it's a bit like thinking no racists supported (voted) for desegregation.

You can't address existing structural and institutional biases if you throw your hands up in the air and say, "everyone is equal."  It is simply not true.  The numbers on education, income, etc. indicate that it is not true based on both race and gender.  You don't have to look very hard at the numbers to see it play it.  

Helping people is certainly not "saying that you are better than they are."  On the level of government, it is trying to address long standing inequalities that continue to exist.

Fuckin' amen, man.

For real?  Y'all are really saying that some folks are just "better" than others?  (funny.  when i said it, y'all jumped my shit like i was some sort of rabid skinhead and i wasn't even referring to different races of folks, just ALL folks, in general)

As far as the gov is concerned, every citizen SHOULD be treated equally.  Some folks aren't smart enough to become rocket scientists, and that's a fact.  But the gov has NO RIGHT to FORCE a school to accept an inferior intellect into it's top programs, and if the gov is meddling around trying to make sure everyone CAN get in, they're over-reaching their bounds, and CAUSING the very thing they're supposedly trying to STOP.  (Wasn't it in this forum that GPA's were discussed, and the fact that the color of your skin made ALL the diff as to whether you were given a Special Consideration {'cuz everyone KNOWS certain colors of folks are just innately dumber than others}?  Yeah.)

That part in { }'s?  It's never SAID, but it's the implied Reason behind affirmative action.  Way to show your lack of prejudice!

Please do not even try to brace up your statements with skewed statistics, which I thought we had all agreed could be made to say whatever we wanted them to say.  Since I'm sitting here, with a census form that I can fill out any way I please, I beg to differ with whatever "findings" the number crunchers choose to flaunt.  (For crying out loud, Obama, himself, stood proudly and LIED on his census form, calling himself "black" when the entire world knows that's he's mixed-race!)