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General Category => Discontempt => Topic started by: underclass on April 27, 2009, 08:05:42 AM
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Hi All,
I've been having similar conversations with individuals about all things Japan 2K9 so I thought it easier to put everything in one place. Schedules, phones, hotels, flights, schoolgirls etc... make a thread here.
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As posted in PM to Dave, Lucas, & Brook... If Kyle shows interest I'll send him this as well:
Ok, This is where I'm planning to stay in Tokyo, if youre interested.
http://www.gracery.com/en/tamachi/index.html (http://www.gracery.com/en/tamachi/index.html)
It's only a few minutes walk from Nick's place, it does twin rooms if some of you want to split the cost, and for Brook, there's also a Ladies Guest room, whatever that might be.
Its not taking bookings online yet for November, so I'll keep an eye on that. Costs will be between US$80 & US120 a night.
Nick and I will talk about accomodation in Hiroshima...
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$120/ night? holy fuck. I need to get a better paying job or something. *Sigh*
I think I'm gonna chill out on the partying for a while or something. I really just need to save a ton of money.
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that's for a double - the idea being that you share with someone.
I can probably pin down a single room somewhere for 4-7K, Ian picked a nicer hotel, what with his partner coming along.
Basically budget around $50 per night for a room. If it's tough, you can stay at my place but my wife stresses out if more than one person stays (it's a Japan thing, their heads explode) which is why I suggested a cheap hotel.
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Do you remember that I'll already need a room, tricky, and thus you'll be able to stay in hotels for free?
The plan from our side:
I fly into Newark the day before our trip. We stay up all night, in an attempt to beat jetlag ahead of time.
We board the plane to Japan, and sleep. We arrive in Japan, proceed through customs, and then call Nick.
We follow printed directions into the city, and then take a cab to our hotel (potentially the same as Mosh's, but I have points, so maybe a different one).
We call Nick from our hotel. Nick comes to find us, and we proceed to acquire (by whatever means necessary) a cell phone.
I call Nick with the cell phone, to ensure its operation. I call my boss with the cell phone, to ensure its international operation.
*insert events of the next week*
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Its a suggestion... no need to freak...
We can set you up in one of these:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/87642099_036012ae6c.jpg)
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I can probably pin down a single room somewhere for 4-7K, Ian picked a nicer hotel, what with his partner coming along.
no worries nick, we'll get a hotel, either in the same place as Mosh (I don't know if I want to stay in a place where they let HIS kind stay...) or someplace close by the train station and Mosh's hotel.
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The place I chose is nearby the station...
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1627/hotelz.png)
BTW, I havent booked anything yet, its merely a suggestion.
And my kind are welcome everywhere!!!
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If Nick does find a hotel within your price range, I'm happy to stay there, it makes it easy to coordinate doing stuff and what have you.
I am thinking a trip to the Ginza for Brook should be on the cards...
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to blow her trip budget on a money purse?
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that's her choice... but being in the fashion industry, I'd imagine she'd be interested...
I did buy that $450 jacket the first time I was there... fantastic piece of clothing...
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yeah, Brooke will like the 109 shop in Shibuya too, my wife can take her shopping.
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Dave will like Kiddieland in Harajuku hahahahahaha
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Yeah I'll be staying in a room with eitje, it's free though? I thought we were splitting? Or do you get a hotel room for free somehow?
I think that I should come up with some sort of fundraiser. Like I'll take pics of myself doing stupid things in Japan for money. Not that I wasn't going to do so anyways...
But anyways, I'm going to hardcore save money. Yes yes. I require some shopping.
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You all forget about me ...
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Oh, and I want the EXACT fucking dates posted so I can book this flight ...
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Nov 1-7... again :P And we didn't forget about you. We're assuming that as the corporate head of 3 conglomerates you're OK for a hotel suite.
Lucas/Tricky - Pls negotiate amongst yourselves for who is going to pay for what and come back to us when you're ready to discuss filming rights.
When we go to Hiroshima someone gets to share with me by the way. I expect furious bidding for that privilege
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Oh, and I want the EXACT fucking dates posted so I can book this flight ...
Jeez... I know youre busy, but the dates have been posted a few times, and communicated to you directly via Skyke a number of times.
I'll be arriving in Japan November 1 2009, 9am. I'll be leaving Japan November 7th 2009 8pm.
I'm out of the running for the Nick sharing... I dont think Danni would like that.
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Jeez... I know youre busy, but the dates have been posted a few times, and communicated to you directly via Skyke a number of times.
Yeah, but if he pretends for long enough that he's not sure what the exact dates are, he'll have an excuse for not going in the end.
Or in other words, Dave, you're a kettle.
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Lucas/Tricky - Pls negotiate amongst yourselves for who is going to pay for what and come back to us when you're ready to discuss filming rights.
When we go to Hiroshima someone gets to share with me by the way. I expect furious bidding for that privilege
tricky: the deal i'm offering is thus.
1) I pay for the rooms in Tokyo.
2) You pay for your own room in Hiroshima.
3) Nick and I split a room in Hiroshima.
4) You give Nick one of your Rapex's.
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What's in it for Lucas?
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I don't understand why Luke needs Nick to have a Rapex. Is Nick's ass just that irresistable?
Yeah and I don't get why I don't pay half for the rooms. I'll gladly pay for half of the rooms. Fair is fair.
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It is.
I had to restrain myself last time I was there!
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Yeah and I don't get why I don't pay half for the rooms. I'll gladly pay for half of the rooms. Fair is fair.
That's fine, I'm just telling you: in Tokyo, I'm using points. So, I'm not actually exchanging money for anything.
These are points that I would not otherwise use. Maybe that's where you're getting stuck... this really is essentially "free" (in Tokyo).
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Oh ok. Oh ok.
Pink wigs!
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You're going to love eating off my ass on a bullet train while drunk on barley liquor
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Yeah and I don't get why I don't pay half for the rooms. I'll gladly pay for half of the rooms. Fair is fair.
That's fine, I'm just telling you: in Tokyo, I'm using points. So, I'm not actually exchanging money for anything.
These are points that I would not otherwise use. Maybe that's where you're getting stuck... this really is essentially "free" (in Tokyo).
That seems to have been lost in translation... I wonder if Gracery takes Lucas points...
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Hey guys, just throwing this out there but I liked the Hotel Lonestar (Lornstar) in Shinjuku that my folks and I stayed at. Free breakfast (coffee, juice, breads, jam, butter, etc.), internet hook ups in the rooms (ethernet - not wifi), very quiet at night, provide laptops in the lobby you can surf on, generally very friendly (even after I showed up at 11:30am on Sunday - an hour and a half after my check-out time). From Shinjuku station I believe it is fairly easy to get pretty much anywhere. Another big plus - red light district is 10 minutes away. For folks who are into it, (Lucas), it's also in the gay area of town.
Fairly cheap too. I ended up spending 62840yen for 8 nights. That was about $639/8 = ~$80/night.
Link: http://www.thehotel.co.jp/en/lonestar/index.html (http://www.thehotel.co.jp/en/lonestar/index.html)
Downside, is it's not really that close to Nick's.
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Lets try to keep everyone in the same part of Tokyo as much as possible.... Kyle had a decent place but it made it hard to coordinate stuff.
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Which is why I'm suggesting Gracery, because it is close to Nick place and is very central.
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Which is why I'm suggesting Gracery, because it is close to Nick place and is very central.
If I can use points to stay here, I will.
Staying someplace other than near Nick, Kyle, is a dumbass idea.
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Weather sounds good for November:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2273.html (http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2273.html)
City Max. Temp Min. Temp. Rainy Days Rainfall Sunshine
Sapporo 8 C (47F) 1 C (34F) 14 d 103 mm 100 h
Tokyo 17 C (62F) 10 C (49F) 6 d 93 mm 141 h
Osaka 17 C (63F) 10 C (49F) 6 d 66 mm 147 h
Fukuoka 18 C (64F) 10 C (49F) 8 d 81 mm 133 h
Naha 24 C (76F) 20 C (67F) 9 d 124 mm 121 h
"November is one of the best times to visit Japan, as the weather is dry and mild, airfares are low and the colored autumn leaves are spectacular."
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Nick, what do you recommend us Americans do as far as preparedness? Like, I plan on getting some sort of translation book and a map to have with me at all times. Good idea? Bad idea? Any recommendations or other suggestions as far as things I might need as a stupid American in Japan? Maybe all of us Americans should have the same copy of the same map to try and avoid more confusion?
Also, this is now my favorite forum and I can not wait for November to come!
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I'm not American.
If you'd feel comfortable with a translation book and a map, sweet. But I'm guessing that most of the time you'll be with either Nick or I, so I'd reckon you'd be fine as far as not getting lost.
Vital phrases are sumimasen (roughly "excuse me") and aragato (thank you). Domo aragato is thank you very much. I've never needed much else, but it'd probably not hurt to learn a couple of other phrases.
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I know you aren't American. :P
I didn't think you'd want/ need a map/ etc. since you have been there before and stuff.
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Oh and the railway stations have English translations of their names, and sometimes the maps are printed in English.
I know this can be very confusing to look at, but here's a JR map of the Tokyo area rail system:
http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/info/map_a4ol.pdf (http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/info/map_a4ol.pdf)
Heres a map for the subway system
http://www.tokyometro.jp/rosen/rosenzu/pdf/rosen_eng.pdf (http://www.tokyometro.jp/rosen/rosenzu/pdf/rosen_eng.pdf)
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this depends totally on your level of interest.
you don't NEED any language at all, as long as you have access to a phone. However "ohayo", "konnichi wa" and "arigato" will never go wrong. Most Japanese people know enough english to suggest their sons as potential husbands
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tricky: I recommend finding the book "Black Rain" by Masuji Ibuse, and read it. I found a copy at my local Barnes & Noble. It'll be in the fiction section, but it's apparently based on a lot of true events, and does a good job of describing the aftermath of the Hiroshima attacks.
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Will do.
However, I'm illiterate.
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However, I'm illiterate.
*head explodes*
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This is a seriously deep book.
Also, I found a scrap of paper in the middle of it, with this printed on it:
http://www.kodansha-intl.com/ (http://www.kodansha-intl.com/)
I'm used to getting random things in used books, but not in new ones!
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Black Rain is a major work in Japanese literature, there was also a movie released in 1989 that is an excellent adaptation for those of you who aren't interested in reading.
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I hope if someone pulls my hair, it doesn't come out easily.
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If Tru somehow comes to Japan, I'm going to kill myself on booze and pills.
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Don't worry, I'll save you. That or I'll take some of those booze and pills too.
I want to see an 8-bit cafe. I still want to see a show too. The White Lies show was about $50 + Nick said they charged some advance drink fee too. Rape.
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Don't worry, I'll save you. That or I'll take some of those booze and pills too.
I want to see an 8-bit cafe. I still want to see a show too. The White Lies show was about $50 + Nick said they charged some advance drink fee too. Rape.
You might think its rape, but it actually isnt. Lotta costs involved in putting on a show in a foreign country.
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Japanese people will pay that much, Americans wont. Plus there's the cost of hosting a bunch of American druggies in Japan.
Besides, why the hell would you worry about seeing an American band here? Lets go get drink on distilled root vegetables under thte train tracks and sing songs with war veterans.
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Lets go get drink on distilled root vegetables under thte train tracks and sing songs with war veterans.
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Nick & wife, Ian & Danni, Luke, Sasha, Kyle, Dave, Brook.
*head explodes*
That's a lot of people. But I doubt everyone will actually go.
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I like how you put Sasha inbetween Lucas and Kyle.
Double adapter?
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I like how you put Sasha inbetween Lucas and Kyle.
Double adapter?
I think she sorted them in order of how well folks know each other?
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"Kyle, Dave, Brook" ....
Hmmmm ....
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My wife will actually be in New Orleans until Nov 2 doing concerts (not confirmed until the tickets show up though)
What this means is that Nick's place can be a sea of futons for Day 1 so people can save on hotel costs (if needed, I assume Ian and Danni will take the hotel and if Lucas can get it on points he will too)
For the rest of the week she'll have work and stuff so will hang out for a the odd dinner and that's it.
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wow, that cool for Nanako.
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yep, it's a free trip because she's been asked to help take a tour group around. 10 years of doing gospel so for her it's like going to mecca I guess.
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If it came down to it I could totally sleep in a double bed with brook a night or two, nothing sexual pervs. I want to go so bad, I talked to my dad about throwing a little fundage my way and he said, "Japan is where bird flu originated, why do you want to go there?" and then I said, "come on old man, " and he said, "uh okay, if you buy the ticket I will throw money your way for expenses." And then he told me he's looking into buying me a condo so I will have my own place and I can save money, my dad looks like santa claus and now he's starting to act like him!
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1: Sharing a bed does not mean anything sexual.
2: Your old man doesnt know squat. Bird flu originated in China and Vietnam.
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Nick & wife, Ian & Danni, Luke, Sasha, Kyle, Dave, Brook.
*head explodes*
That's a lot of people. But I doubt everyone will actually go.
Anybody want to bet on who will end up being the flake?
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Nick & wife, Ian & Danni, Luke, Sasha, Kyle, Dave, Brook.
*head explodes*
That's a lot of people. But I doubt everyone will actually go.
Anybody want to bet on who will end up being the flake?
1: Sharing a bed does not mean anything sexual.
When it's with bagman, it does.
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Looks like Dave and Kyle are sharing a bed! Make sure to videotape.
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and over here a double means a wide-single. There's no way you can avoid touching
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Yes, honestly when I walked into my hotel room I was stunned at how small it was. I was fairly prepared for a small room, but the entire thing including bathroom and entry hall was smaller than my bedroom in my SMALL condo (by US standards). But you get used to it quickly. Not that bad. Especially since mainly all you'll be doing in the room is sleeping, and toilet/shower duty.
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Sasha can crash with me if she wants. But Luke & Sasha be warned that I may snore and/ or fart in my sleep. I'm nothing but class!
Edit: I'll bring my breathrite strips and avoid beans.
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Sasha can crash with me if she wants. But Luke & Sasha be warned that I may snore and/ or fart in my sleep. I'm nothing but class!
Edit: I'll bring my breathrite strips and avoid beans.
Hopefully I'll be on a different floor.
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That's Kyle smooth-talk for "don't worry baby, you can crash with me"
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I'm buying my ticket tomorrow. I just have to put the cash people donated to me over the last two days in my bank account. I raised $1060 in the last two days for the trip! Then I am going to get my passport on Friday. I have to get a new one which is kind of a bummer.
PS- Trick, I sleep walk so don't feel too bad. If you find me squatting in a closet over a waste paper basket assuming it's the bathroom, just know I'm not doing it on purpose....
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I should have 2 passports.
Gonna go for a third when I'm in Europe, and maybe a fourth.
Never can have too many passports.
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I was just looking at the Subway station map and I think it's easy to read. I believe the train you take from the airport to the Hotel Gracery is the Yokosuka line. Is that right?
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pretty much, it's the Sobu-Rapid from Narita-Tokyo and then the Yokosuka line the rest of the way. You'll be getting an express train on that - your JR pass will cover it.
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yes, there's more things to purchase in the US (but not until September).
We'll need to pick up Japan Rail pass vouchers, which we will redeem in Japan, so that we can ride everywhere for free!
...after an initial $300 investment.
......which is apparently regained on just a few train rides anywhere.
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$70 in trains <> Narita.
$220 in trains <> Hiroshima
Ergo, anything else you ride during the week is on the house!
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Luke, is there anywhere in Austin we can buy the passes at? I think Ian posted that you could get one in Houston, but I don't live in Houston!
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Check with a local travel consultant
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Luke, is there anywhere in Austin we can buy the passes at? I think Ian posted that you could get one in Houston, but I don't live in Houston!
No place in Austin, that I know.
You order them online from Houston, and they ship to you.
But the vouchers are only good for 3 months, so you MUST wait until we're closer to the trip itself.
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MUST wait until we're closer to the trip itself.
tease?
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note, i'm buying EVERYTHING that we've discussed, but not until August & September.
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What have you discussed buying?
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we have a lot of excelent threads in this "Japan 2009" forum that answer that exact question.