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Ugh, pain! Hurting! (Read 32244 times)
Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #90 on: August 20, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
No one here knows a fuck about Hinduism yet they all like to bash it.

Wrong and wrong. Please do not confuse the enlightened  periphery with the ignorant rabble. KTHX

Here geographically, not here in LG, brah.

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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #91 on: August 20, 2009, 06:38:31 PM
No one here knows a fuck about Hinduism yet they all like to bash it.

Wrong and wrong. Please do not confuse the enlightened  periphery with the ignorant rabble. KTHX

Here geographically, not here in LG, brah.

noted.
Cool.

Sorry, I rarely differentiate between here irl and here online.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of the shut it method. It doesnt solve anything, doesn't even get them to shut up...

I like to give people enough rope to hang themselves, such as when you let a 16 year old girl who doesn't even prepare her own meals tell you how you should feed yourself.
I didn't tell you how to feed yourself.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #92 on: August 20, 2009, 06:44:22 PM
What are you, HoJo now?

Srsly.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #93 on: August 20, 2009, 06:46:24 PM
No one here knows a fuck about Hinduism yet they all like to bash it.

Are you kidding me? When? I don't think anyone here even cares about Hinduism.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of the shut it method. It doesnt solve anything, doesn't even get them to shut up...

I like to give people enough rope to hang themselves, such as when you let a 16 year old girl who doesn't even prepare her own meals tell you how you should feed yourself.

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The best study comparing vegetarian diets practiced by the Seventh Day Adventists to the general population indicates that a vegetarian diet results in a 1.5-2 year increase in life expectancy.

Statistical studies comparing dietary patterns generally show better health outcomes for diets composed of low volumes of meat and high volumes of vegetables.

Not that it's has any relevance, but man, my ex-wife had a 7th day branch of the family, and they were the biggest, fattest vegetarians ev4r!

Only a 1.5 to 2 year increase in life expectancy is pretty dismal for living a life of pious self-deprivation of meat. What would be interesting is a quality of life metric. Did they have fewer health problems during their later years? Were they more alert, or active? What about prescription medicines, did they take more, less, or the same, and what were those medicines meant to treat?

That type of data would be great.

Also, there have been studies done with mice that showing that a reduction in overall calories creates a longer life span, so a natural question would be whether the 1.5 to 2 year increase in life span was due to the elimination of meat itself, or was it a by-product of diet containing fewer calories overall?




I don't think they controlled for overall caloric intake.  Vegetarians do have lower rates of cancer, diabetes, hypertension, and other cardiovascular disease.  I don't remember how much lower, though.  After hearing the horror stories one of my friends who recently graduated from medical school told about the elderly diabetics, that is one disease I absolutely want to do as much as possible to avoid.

Some studies claim the life expectancy is as much as 10 years longer.  The seventh day adventist one is pretty conservative in its findings - I think because the authors tried to control for as many lifestyle differences versus an average American as possible.

I think in France they've shown that people who eat the mediterranean diet in the south have higher life expectancies than the more meat laden diets of the north.  



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #94 on: August 20, 2009, 06:52:19 PM
The mediterranean diet has proven to be a very healthy one.

Personally, I'd happily trade a healthier end life over an extra 10 shitty years.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #95 on: August 20, 2009, 06:53:01 PM
What are you, HoJo now?

Srsly.

I've still got all my hair, so no.


But I meant when I say 'here' i rarely say or explain whether I'm talking about irl or online.

I'm just no good with words.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #96 on: August 20, 2009, 07:00:40 PM
The mediterranean diet has proven to be a very healthy one.

Personally, I'd happily trade a healthier end life over an extra 10 shitty years.

I'll off myself if my mind start to go.  I think that's my line in the sand.  Alzheimer's or something like that.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #97 on: August 20, 2009, 07:08:43 PM
10 years. Life is short enough already. I'd rather enjoy what I have while I'm here. If I burn twice as brightly for half as long, I'm cool with it.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #98 on: August 20, 2009, 07:22:29 PM
The mediterranean diet has proven to be a very healthy one.

Personally, I'd happily trade a healthier end life over an extra 10 shitty years.

I'll off myself if my mind start to go.  I think that's my line in the sand.  Alzheimer's or something like that.

This guy had felt unwell for months, so he decided to see his doctor. The doctor examined him and referred him to the hospital to see various specialists. After a couple of weeks, all the test results came through, he returned to see his doctor.

"I'm very sorry", said the doctor. "I'm afraid I have bad news and worse news."

"Tell me the worst."

"I'll be honest, you have cancer, you'll be dead in three months."

"Shit! " said the guy. "What on earth is the bad news?"

"You also have Alzheimer's Disease."

"Alzheimer's? Oh well, at least I don't have cancer."
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #99 on: August 20, 2009, 08:09:57 PM
droll


I think the Japanese have a high life expectancy, and the traditional Japanese diet had little or no meat (barring fish) in it altogether. Not sure how happy you'd be on a diet of seaweed, tofu and the occasional clam.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #100 on: August 20, 2009, 11:33:29 PM
My mother has never eaten eggs in her life. There is nothing about tolerating it. I don't know where you got that from Fy but there's nothing medical about it.

Her parents thought eating egg was bad, that it is still meat. That is all.



And yes my brother is diabetic. That doesn't mean it's directly due to not eating meat. I know a girl of my age who is also diabetic. She eats a plenty meatz.

There's an increase in diabetes here anyway, and most people here are meat eaters. Methinks it's something else.

yes, for your bro, there are other considerations and he has some excellent reasons to remain vegan, but what about you, when you live your own life?

Do YOU feel like meat is abhorrent?

i wonder, because we may all have to come to grips with being hunter/gathers again, and you eat whatever there is, you know?

See, i would starve to death before i ate raw meat or human flesh or drank horse's blood to stave off dying of thirst.  i would just throw it back up if i tried, so why trouble my insides by killing something i won't be able to keep down?
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #101 on: August 20, 2009, 11:50:33 PM
mmmmm... basashi
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #102 on: August 21, 2009, 01:28:46 AM
Anybody try the Chophouse Cheddar Burger at Whataburger? It's slightly amazing.

Also, I've always wanted to eat here:

A Meal To Die For




Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #103 on: August 21, 2009, 09:48:26 AM
Anybody try the Chophouse Cheddar Burger at Whataburger? It's slightly amazing.

Also, I've always wanted to eat here:





Haha...ew. Obviously the waitresses don't eat there.

The fries are cooked in lard.."Good, old fashioned, healthy lard"
If they run out they can just render one of their customers...



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #104 on: August 21, 2009, 09:50:03 AM
I'd pay to watch that.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #105 on: August 21, 2009, 09:53:19 AM
The harpoons, man them.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #106 on: August 21, 2009, 10:19:15 AM
I want to go to that place.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #107 on: August 21, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
mmmmm... basashi

If I ever visit Japan, I guess I will have to try it!



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #108 on: August 21, 2009, 11:19:47 AM
word on the street is a korean diet is where it's at if longevity is the desired goal. which, for many of you flesh and cholesterol lovers out there, is clearly not the case.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #109 on: August 21, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
I ain't eatin no bugs and pets.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #110 on: August 21, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
If you don't believe it, marry one. Life is very, very long...
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #111 on: August 21, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
My mother has never eaten eggs in her life. There is nothing about tolerating it. I don't know where you got that from Fy but there's nothing medical about it.

Her parents thought eating egg was bad, that it is still meat. That is all.



And yes my brother is diabetic. That doesn't mean it's directly due to not eating meat. I know a girl of my age who is also diabetic. She eats a plenty meatz.

There's an increase in diabetes here anyway, and most people here are meat eaters. Methinks it's something else.

yes, for your bro, there are other considerations and he has some excellent reasons to remain vegan, but what about you, when you live your own life?

Do YOU feel like meat is abhorrent?

i wonder, because we may all have to come to grips with being hunter/gathers again, and you eat whatever there is, you know?

See, i would starve to death before i ate raw meat or human flesh or drank horse's blood to stave off dying of thirst.  i would just throw it back up if i tried, so why trouble my insides by killing something i won't be able to keep down?


What the hell are you going on about? We are NOT vegan. We are vegetarian.


And no, I have no plans to start eating meat.



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #112 on: August 21, 2009, 02:17:10 PM
Does the man your parents are going to make you marry know that?
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #113 on: August 21, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Yes, I do.

I mean... he does.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #114 on: August 21, 2009, 02:25:31 PM
Great, I didnt know I was getting into a biding war.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #115 on: August 21, 2009, 02:39:20 PM
Bring it, cancer man.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #116 on: August 21, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
Cancer man, now that's a superhero you can rely on.

Does the man your parents are going to make you marry know that?

Know that I won't eat meat? If they found me a guy they wouldn't consider a non vegetarian dude anyway...



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #117 on: August 21, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
You know what we all meant.
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Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #118 on: August 21, 2009, 04:08:34 PM
Oh wait... I got it.. sorry...



Re: Ugh, pain! Hurting! Reply #119 on: August 22, 2009, 05:54:43 PM
What the hell are you going on about? We are NOT vegan. We are vegetarian.


And no, I have no plans to start eating meat.

Wow, i'm sorry, Sakhi ~ i was trying to "cover all the bases" ~ the no egg thang, ...

Anyway, sorry about that! ;)
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