In their defense, they were used to being considered Hip, being surrounded by friends (and future friends),
and most of them are quite a bit younger than most of L-G.
Did i mention that y'all are a tough crowd ?!?
Anyway, they're getting their forum nicely set up, and should enjoy it.
p.s. They're pretty much over L-G, expending their energies on the new forum, and recruiting, so die oh.