Has Syria made a second attempt at invasion?

 Hamas and Hezbollah do not give shit what concessions anyone makes in their favor. Regardless of whatever cards they may play to manipulate sympathy out of the international community, they are ultimately driven by Muslim-supremacist ideology. If you give them something, they will only see it as a sign of your weakness begin grabbing for more. The Hamas charter specifically calls for wiping Israel off the map. You can choose to play their fool, if you wish, but do not expect me to condone it.

Somebody not doing something is not proof your deterrent is working.

Christ, I pull one ethnic group out of my ass and there's gotta be one of 'em here...

 I would say that the if the cost of learning is having your country invaded, it's better to play it fucking safe.

 That's like saying, "Well, no one has broke into my home and raped my daughter since that last time, I guess it's okay if I sell the dog and remove the locks."

but they are not playing it safe. they are pissing off the people (countries) that have supported them in the past by continuing to build.

 They are pissing off the leaders of vaguely allied nations who are asking them to undermine the safety and security of their own citizens to indulge the desires of their sworn enemies.

Sweet. With any luck we can wipe the fuckers out by 2020.

Just like Hitler and Muhammad always dreamed...

of course, they would have these safety and security issues if they stoped trying to expand and try to play nice. you know, like not killing all them people who lived in 'Israel' when they were given the land after the war.

Or the other land they took by force because they said it was rightfully theirs. Like Argentina in the Falklands, Iraq in Kuwait, etc etc ad nauseum...

 It's wonderful to see what sort of people you align yourselves with:

11-year-old Palestinians: Martyrdom better than this world

Shahada is "Death for Allah", just so you know.


IDF Lieutenant Inon Encounters an Elderly Lady Wired to a Bomb

I see nothing.

No, Turkish. But even then, only maybe.

It's wonderful to see what sort of people you align yourselves with

Not blindly defending Israel's every move as right doesn't mean that they're the only ones who are wrong.

Somebody not doing something is not proof your deterrent is working.

If a guy used a crumb of logic, your double negative would cancel out, and we'd have:

Somebody not doing something is not proof your deterrent is working.

Hmmm...

Maybe THAT's why they say you can't prove a negative

You think?

I see nothing.

There is none so blind as he who uses dial up and has images turned off.

Not dial up, G3 for all personal use.

Tractor trailers kill unicorns, which is bad.

Sorry Zoomie, it didn't work.

I actually do believe, ideologically, that we would have better options than we do currently if the government stayed out of most markets (including the biases created in transportation choice, which I didn't throw out there as a joke) and simply served as a referee to prevent excesses & bust up monopolies. 

I just don't think it's possible within the framework we've built in the past couple hundred years, but in particular due to the excesses since WW2 as part of playing global superhero.

Yeah. He was right anyway. Tractor-trailers do kill unicorns.

No, Turkish. But even then, only maybe.

It's wonderful to see what sort of people you align yourselves with

Not blindly defending Israel's every move as right doesn't mean that they're the only ones who are wrong.

 I have not blindly defended Israel's every move. I have argued against those here who blindly condemn Israel, however, by stating that Syria somehow has a "right" to lands they lost when their attempt to invade and destroy Israel failed, or that the Jordanian immigrants who abandoned and sold off their lands in Israel in the hopes that they could reclaim them and more, for free, after invading Arab armies had fullfilled their promise to kill all the Jews in Israel, have any sort of mandate to break off a piece of Israel.

 I will not, for example, defend Israel selling American military secrets to China, as it was both immoral and myopic.

 And although I can guess at their reasoning behind it (hint: New York Times, Bay of Pigs) I will not defend Israel attacking the Liberty.

 The clusterfuck over Shebaa Farms I won't lay at the feet of Israel, but I won't blame it entirely on Lebanon or Syria either. The "international community" can own the bulk of that mess, as they refuse to officially recognize Israel captured Shebaa Farms from Syria rather than Lebanon.

Geez, I thought you people were all about personal responsibility.

Geez, I thought you people were all about personal responsibility.

 If the international community refuses to recognize Israel captured Shebaa Farms from Syria, they can hardly return it to Syria, nor can Syria accept it, without an even worse mess being created. Everyone there knows who it originally belonged to, and that Hezbollah is full of it, but no one can do anything about it.

How the fuck are the Golan Heights, land captured from Syria after they attempted to invade and destroy Israel "occupied land".

Do you even know why Israelis build settlements there? ....

Umm because THEY ARE NAZIS"S?

Has Syria made a second attempt at invasion?

 If you give them something, they will only see it as a sign of your weakness begin grabbing for more.

I would like to see an example of this.

I said instead of invading Iraq and Afghanistan in 2001 that we should have delivered bush's head on a pole just to show that we actually can police our own corrupt fuckaticians.
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If they persist after that, then all out war.

I got a personal visit from the SS for that.

They allowed the jews to live amongst them for several hundred years after they kicked the christians the fuck out. And with very little conflict.

I don't believe much of anything we are supposed to believe about the Muslims. Except I do believe that religious fanatics of any sort have no place in modern life and should not be tolerated domestically. Their ideas should be considered as relevant only when considering foreign matters or esoteric observations of human nature but
You I and the rest of us currently face no  serious danger from their philosophy other than the remote odd man criminal aspect, but look at the record of events and who or what group actually profited from them. every single time.

Hezbollah, Westboro Baptist Church, Armed Front for the Defense of Sinhalese, Right wing hindu extremists and my baseball bat and gun toting cousins in the Jewish Defense League...

Don't place all the blame for whatever Napoleon complex you have on just the shoulders of Islam, Balor. Extremism is everywhere. There are no clean hands. Anywhere.

Somebody not doing something is not proof your deterrent is working.

If a guy used a crumb of logic, your double negative would cancel out, and we'd have:

Somebody not doing something is not proof your deterrent is working.

It's a poorly phrased statement, but the ol' double negative makes a positive argument is childish.  That's not the intent of the statement.  The rule about double negatives exists because in written language they result in unclear statements - you need intonation or surrounding context to understand the intent of the statement.

The intent of the statement was something more along the lines of:
Inactivity on the part of Syria is not sufficient evidence to prove a deterrent effect.

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There are actually a lot of statistical studies about the deterrent effect of various measures to reduce crime.  There are some very strong correlations between various factors - for example, there's less crime when there's a strong job market.

There isn't enough data to make any statements about the deterrent effect of Israel possessing a particular piece of territory - there are too many other variables to consider.  You could perhaps argue that it's in their tactical interest to possess a particular piece of territory should hostilities resume in earnest. 

Hezbollah, Westboro Baptist Church, Armed Front for the Defense of Sinhalese, Right wing hindu extremists and my baseball bat and gun toting cousins in the Jewish Defense League...

Don't place all the blame for whatever Napoleon complex you have on just the shoulders of Islam, Balor. Extremism is everywhere. There are no clean hands. Anywhere.

 No, Zoomie... just... no.

 Read the Koran, the commentaries by Muhammad's own scribes, etc. Forget all that PC "all cultures are equal" silliness.

 Islam is not a religion, Islam is a personality cult created by a seizure-stricken, obsessive-compulsive, physically deformed, pathological narcissist who preached genocide, rape, torture, terrorism, the destruction of all Arabic writings preceding his ascent to power (how Orwellian), and the violent subjugation or massacre of all who refused to submit to the worship of his own delusional perception of himself as the center of all creation and the sole purpose for which his sock-puppet "god" Allah created the universe.

 It should be telling that there is no one more critical or more fervent in their desire to see Islam die out than those who have left it, turning apostate at the risk of their lives. It should be telling that there is no other major religion which riots and murders en masse over a caricature of one of it's central figures or criticism of its savagery. It should be telling that before Muhammad and his Islam, women in the Middle East could go about as they pleased, own businesses and property, and have male employees. In fact, Muhammad's first wife was not only a wealthy woman, but his employer. It should be telling that the most severe restrictions on women, their veiling and cloistering, were decreed only later in Muhammad's life when one of his numerous maladies would have been rendering him physically grotesque, and oversexed yet impotent.

 It should be telling that Muhammad had anyone who criticized or resisted him, both men and women, assassinated.

 It should be telling that Muhammad, failing as a street-preacher, went out into the desert and garnered a following by promising bandits they would be doing "Allah"'s work (and reaping rich rewards) by making him their leader in robbing and looting caravans and villages.

 It should be telling that every scrap of Islam's veneer of spirituality (which any successful cult must have) can be traced back to the pre-existing religions and philosophies in the Middle East, though Muhammad claimed them as his own revelations.

 It should be telling that Abdulah ibn Sarh, one of Muhammad's own scribes, left Muhammad and Islam, in fact fleeing for his life knowing there was "no getting out", as it were, after he noticed that "Allah" changed his revelations whenever Abdulah suggested better verses.

 It should be telling that Muhammad's Islam was a great influence on Adolf Hitler, and that modern Islam has taken quite a few pages from his book in turn.

 But hey, if you won't take my word for it, maybe you'll pay attention to those who had the great misfortune to have been a part of Islam themselves, and the good sense to get out, though in many cases it meant risking death at the hands of complete strangers or even their own families:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/about-us/

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/

There is no "extremist" Islam, there is only Islam.

There are no "moderate" Muslims, there are only backsliders, who will more often than not make endless excuses for the true believers, and who serve as a breeding ground for those who seek to destroy or enslave all other cultures.

All of which does not change one letter of FACT of my previous post. Extremism is still everywhere. Whether or not I believe your version is not relevant to those facts.

Unless of course you happen to believe that Fred Phelps is right...