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Demise of the dollar(Read 8766 times)
Demise of the dollar on: October 07, 2009, 09:55:31 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

#1 - Moving away from the dollar has been discussed for a long time & the moves aren't exactly secret.  The timing & pace of transitioning away is a bit of a mystery, but the move away from dollars is inevitable given that American empire is in decline.

#2 - Why is a uk website full of Americans talking about how much they hate Obama in the comments?  Ultimately, it doesn't have to do with any particular president and has everything to do with the rest of the world being sick of being subject to the whims of cocksuckers like Alan Greenspan & various other US economic policy makers.  I think the most complimentary thing you could say about US economic policy since maybe as far back as the end of WW2 is that it was short sighted.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
Fixing your health care system would probably remove this threat by the way
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
Fat chance of that happening.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 10:36:18 AM
Fixing your health care system would probably remove this threat by the way

Japan has been through how many recessions/inflationary periods since 1970?  I'm having trouble remembering.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 11:43:39 AM
Damn Islam is causing it all.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 12:16:55 PM
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 04:39:30 PM
The dollar depreciating in value will make our exports more competitive and probably put low-skilled workers back to work in factories in stuff, but that's assuming everything else isn't fucked and assuming that the jobs won't just get outsourced to Banglamexigypt.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 06:50:17 PM
The dollar depreciating in value will make our exports more competitive and probably put low-skilled workers back to work in factories in stuff, but that's assuming everything else isn't fucked and assuming that the jobs won't just get outsourced to Banglamexigypt.

uh-huh

I'm not an economist so I can't analyze all the ramifications from this, but a hunch tells me the US wants the dollar to be in the driving seat.

Besides, the worlds financial IT systems are absolutely not ready to trade vs a fancy hybrid basket. This would take 3-5 years to set up.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 07:17:42 PM
Of course we're outsourcing our competitive edge. It's expensive to keep in here in the US. It's much cheaper to let a third world nation sublet our competitive edge, even though they will soon surpass our level of technology. But that makes them NOT a third world nation. So ultimately it's good for the world.

Anyway, it's not like we're sending jobs to those Afghani mongoloids, right?
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 10:27:34 PM
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Well I'm glad I sent that bunch of money to an Australian bank yesterday.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 02:49:23 AM
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 02:55:58 AM
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 10:32:32 PM
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 11:33:48 PM
The cause of all this is Australia raising their interest rates because their economy is probably the strongest in the world right now as far as stability and soundness.

AU is slave to the Asians now.

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This guy seems to think that depreciating the dollar (making it less valuable vs. other currency) will ignite manufacturing jobs in the midwest, etc. but I don't know how sound that theory is.  I would be very skeptical of it, because I would bet those jobs are gone for good, even considering dollar-depreciated exchange rates for export production, producers still aren't going to hire americans back at high wages when they can get third world people to do it for less.
(I'm studying this exact stuff right now in an International Econ. class so it's interesting to read about and discuss things going on).

The machinery for the low skilled labour was in the US sold off years ago. The unkilled assembly jobs were also exported. Mostly to a country that restricts everybodies ability to invest and has massive savings. The old 2nd world is running the show now. They were the first world at one point and they are making a comeback. Not suprising really.

We still rely on the USA making more mistakes.



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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #15 on: October 17, 2009, 02:46:34 AM
$A uber alles....



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #16 on: October 17, 2009, 08:30:30 AM
The way to ignite American manufacturing jobs is to make it cost prohibitive to import stuff from countries which have little or no environmental or human rights standards.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #17 on: October 17, 2009, 09:00:50 AM
Yeah fuck China!
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #18 on: October 17, 2009, 09:10:23 AM
Greed for the Chinese markets leads to the US's downfall.  Maybe that'll be history's story.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #19 on: October 17, 2009, 10:06:53 AM
Yeah. Maybe...
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #20 on: October 17, 2009, 02:04:11 PM
It was more the fact that folks couldn't afford to LIVE on one salary,

minimum wage was a joke,

and peeps needed to watch their spending, in order to TRY to have enough for savings and/or investments, imho.

Add to that the fact that we're taxed, and taxed,

while trying to "provide" a better life-style for those less fortunate, many of whom are just "playing the system," and i'm speaking of countries as well as people.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #21 on: October 17, 2009, 09:04:52 PM
Considering the distribution of wealth in this country, criticizing the poorest (even the ones gaming the system) for the manipulations of monetary policy is pretty absurd.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #22 on: October 18, 2009, 02:23:20 AM
Considering the distribution of wealth in this country, criticizing the poorest (even the ones gaming the system) for the manipulations of monetary policy is pretty absurd.

Huh?

How is speaking about the need for EVERYONE to try to save money "criticizing" ANYone?

If the minimum wage isn't enough to LIVE ON, it MAKES more folks have to play the system, just in order to survive.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #23 on: October 18, 2009, 07:56:15 AM
Ah, ok.

I misinterpreted the intent of your comment.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #24 on: October 18, 2009, 08:40:30 AM
Greed for the Chinese markets leads to the US's downfall.  Maybe that'll be history's story.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 12:23:20 AM
Reality; A shared narrative we all agree to believe.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #26 on: October 22, 2009, 02:15:52 AM
Invest in gold.
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #27 on: October 22, 2009, 04:22:16 AM
Reality; A shared narrative we all agree to believe.



Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #28 on: October 22, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.  Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."    Thomas Jefferson

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."   Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Demise of the dollar Reply #29 on: October 22, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
If there's ever an end of the world scenario where I still have a few days to do things like go to banks and such, I'm going to look for all of the half-dollar coins I can find.
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