SCA man, SCA man
SCA man hates East Texas man
They have a fight, SCA wins
SCA man

I also like to hear true stories of addicts who OD in back alleys and how they got there as told through the tears of a loved one.

Is that one me?? 

Like you didn't already know that my porky little love muffin...

Stop it Zooms, yer makin' me blush.

SCA man, SCA man
SCA man hates East Texas man
They have a fight, SCA wins
SCA man

You know, I've always wanted to ask you... what does Zoomie's dick taste like?  Are those pom poms heavy?

Don't you remember?

Probably tastes like boot leather.

Listen, if you want to be mad at someone, get pissed at "They Might Be Giants".

I'm not mad at anyone.

Why, am I hitting a little too close to the mark?

Since you explained it to me, I just look at as that's what Aaron does.

Sort of like travelling around the world every two years.

I mean, who's fucked up enough to want to do something like that??

It'd be more often if I could afford the time...

Listen, if you want to be mad at someone, get pissed at "They Might Be Giants".

You are an evil, evil man. What'd TMBG ever do to you?

They Might Be Overrated

Danzig, as soon as you start doing something with your life instead of trying to steal your own medication out of your father's safe we'll listen to your musical critiques. Calling They Might Be Giants over rated is like calling Tiny Tim over rated.

Balor,  . They have a lot of fun. I'd forgotten about ARMA. I like how seriously they take everything. At the moment however, I'm just teaching my kids unarmed combat. Sometimes I give them an Escrima stick and set them loose on the trees. They think it's the best time ever.

Fuse, aren't you the one who came into this thread and started giving Zoomie a hard time? Why then when he barks back are you trying to pull some guilt trip shit, what kind of pussy bullshit is that? Like we all know you're getting ready to kick the bucket. If it's just from being a fattie tell your family to go fuck themselves for not pitching in to get you bariatric surgery. I guess they don't care about you enough to keep you kickin.

Fuse, aren't you the one who came into this thread and started giving Zoomie a hard time? Why then when he barks back are you trying to pull some guilt trip shit, what kind of pussy bullshit is that? Like we all know you're getting ready to kick the bucket. If it's just from being a fattie tell your family to go fuck themselves for not pitching in to get you bariatric surgery. I guess they don't care about you enough to keep you kickin.

Aww leave him alone, he didn't INVENT the twinkie...

 I don't remember if they were ARMA or a different WMA group, but there was a pretty good looking training group that runs outside of Philly with another location I think in Maryland. I love that WMA are being reconstructed, because of the cultural connection, that they never suffered the sporterizing Eastern fighting systems have, and the training progression of unarmed -> dagger -> sword/sword and buckler -> longsword -> polearms, where each step builds fundamental skills for the following ones.

 The illustrations from the old fechtbooks show clearly how no-nonsense the European fighting systems were.

 What I'd really like to see is a modernized branch-off, though, replacing sword/sword and buckler with a cane and improvised defense (such as a coat or jacket draped over the off-hand), and unifying the longsword/polearm fighting into the use of a 4 or 5 foot staff, which would better develop skills transferable to modern improvised weapons. (French stick-fighting did this to some extent, using a 4 foot stick with techniques transferred from those used with the longsword.)

Anything looks good in theory, but without actual investigation and testing you end up with a lot of shit. That's what happened to Eastern martial arts, and the teachers just said if you can't get a technique to work in actual combat then you need to practice harder not that the technique was far fetched.

MMA has done a great job of seperating the wheat from the chaff in unarmed combat. It's not survival fighting, but you're not ALWAYS going to have the opportunity to gouge your opponents eyes out, and I'm not entirely sure that savagely biting someone's cheek, nose or fingers off is going to stop an opponent who's only intent is murdering you. A broken arm or inability to breathe however, will severly hamper their efforts.

Bas Rutten Street Defense - The Better Version

Fuse, aren't you the one who came into this thread and started giving Zoomie a hard time? Why then when he barks back are you trying to pull some guilt trip shit, what kind of pussy bullshit is that? Like we all know you're getting ready to kick the bucket. If it's just from being a fattie tell your family to go fuck themselves for not pitching in to get you bariatric surgery. I guess they don't care about you enough to keep you kickin.

Well, I'm trying to communicate something here, but I suppose it's getting lost in the translation.  Something about visual acuity and foliage and whatnot.

Anything looks good in theory, but without actual investigation and testing you end up with a lot of shit. That's what happened to Eastern martial arts, and the teachers just said if you can't get a technique to work in actual combat then you need to practice harder not that the technique was far fetched.

MMA has done a great job of seperating the wheat from the chaff in unarmed combat. It's not survival fighting, but you're not ALWAYS going to have the opportunity to gouge your opponents eyes out, and I'm not entirely sure that savagely biting someone's cheek, nose or fingers off is going to stop an opponent who's only intent is murdering you. A broken arm or inability to breathe however, will severly hamper their efforts.

Krav Maga purported to teach survival techniques, though they almost exclusively were...knee to the balls, throw a bunch of punches, and run.  Those classes got pretty boring pretty quick.

I like the MMA-style gym I'm at now a lot better than anything else I've ever done.  I don't know if the difference is so much that they seperate the wheat from the chaff, though. I'd say that the difference is in MMA classes you have more leeway to build personal skill set, while in a traditional martial arts class, you're building a generic skill set.  In an MMA style gym you're competing from day one - 25-50% of every class is actually rolling at the place I go to.  So you're trying to apply techniques right off the bat and learning which ones work for you and which ones don't.  By the time you're allowed to spar in a traditional martial arts class, you've spent hundreds of hours drilling things that you may or may not be able to do successfully (and you're a year or two into a class without ever REALLY hitting anyone, or getting hit).

What I mean with MMA seperating the wheat from the chaff is that we've ended up with a very successful basic formula... Western boxing for hand techniques. A grappling system that takes whatever will work from BJJ, Catch as Can Wrestling, Folkstyle (high school and college freestyle), Grecko Roman, Judo, etc. And kicking techniques from Muay Thai.

This covers a huge amount of techniques and as you said an MMA practitioner has freedom to build a skill set that works with his own physical build, abilities, and mindset. Hell, if you're Chuck Liddell fuck the boxing and just go in there with some really good unorthodox karate stand up and a great take down defense built up through a lifetime of folkstyle wrestling. There is no wrong, there are only techniques that work or don't work and it's painfully obvious that most martial arts are packed to the gills with techniques that just don't work or are impractical.

BJJ has a LOT of techniques for submissions, but what you end up seeing over and over are the rear naked, the arm bar, and once in a while the kimura. BJJ looks down on leg submissions so you usually won't see a BJJ guy use one.

Leg submissions are a GREAT tool to have in your arsenal however, and that's why you'll see sambo and free style grapplers use them. Still, there are a lot of those too but what you'll see win a fight are the knee bar, heel hook, and Achillles tendon lock.

As Bruce Lee said, it's not the adding to, but the taking away. I think it's rather obvious that modern MMA is the true spirit of JKD, and I really feel sorry for those who believe that JKD is what Bruce taught to his students and that it would never have evolved beyond what he left behind.

I'm glad that you're training MMA. Krav Maga is a fucking lie.

MMA is for sissy faygots.



















j/k mma is awesome.

In my training I don't find as much pleasure in securing a submission as I do escaping one.

That said, a rolling kimura into top position is a favorite move of mine.

In my training I don't find as much pleasure in securing a submission as I do escaping one.

That said, a rolling kimura into top position is a favorite move of mine.

Nice. Escapes are great, get one or two down really well and then bait your opponent into taking the technique! Arm bars were my favorite escape probably followed by triangle escapes.

Yeah, around here in the local shows it's guillotine guillotine guillotine guillotine.

I swear the rubes would shit their pants if they saw this:

Rumina's Flying Armbar

Except for the one day I was teaching my son the double leg take down and his sister fell on his face knee first. Now he's always like, "I don't want to do the double leg".

OK, but Loth... if Krsna's kids are injuring themselves on double leg takedowns, what makes you think they'll be doing any better with flying armbars?
Krsna you should just be teaching them the Muay Thai Clinch. It's a murderous set-up and I can't see your kids hurting themselves on this at all.

Dude, he's four years old. Let the kid have some fun just fucking around!

Flying arm bars are wicked. They always make you all, "Oh no he di-ent!" when someone pulls one off.

He's already too old.

You gots to be training them in the womb!

I miss TV... I was actually watching UFC when I broke the TV by hitting it too hard. It needed to be hit because there was a loose wire in it. The TV really sucked, but then when I hit it it died for good. So I tried to take the back off and I broker the stem of the picture tube. I was watching a match between some random dude and one of the fighters that I hate - I forget who. As always the fighter I hate was winning.

Who do you guys hate? My top 3 would probably be:
1)Urijah Faber - He's too much a pretty boy. Always wins and is too cocky.
2)Clay Guida - Because he fucking always wins. I've seen him lose exactly once. Other than that he's a decent guy. He was a real man about it when he lost the one time.
3)Georges St.Pierre - Because he's a whiny little bitch.

I'd love to see Faber go against Guida. They're totally within range. I'd root for Guida in a heartbeat, but I'd hope it was a really close match because I want to see both of them get the crap beaten out of them.

They Might Be Overrated

Not just "might". I've never understood what all the fuss is about with those guys.

Also, MMA is the shit. Kimbo Slice is my favourite! Kidding.

What did anyone think about the Couture/Lesnar fight?

And how is GSP a whiny little bitch? What am I missing?

Oh and that Bas Rutten video is great.

Another sentence for the hell of it.

And one more.

I don't know. I though GSP's reaction to losing to Matt Serra was pretty weak. The lead-up to the GSP-Matt Serra grudge-match turned me against him. If he'd lost a second time and had behaved more respectfully for a third fight I'd probably have rooted for him.

Also I think I've just had too much mixing with cocky Franco Quebecor dudes.

Is the Iron Sheik still at it?