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General Category => Discontempt => Topic started by: Pressed_Rat on August 21, 2009, 02:59:46 AM
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Is it really a woman, or is it a dude?
My opinion: That's a man, baby.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207653/Womens-800m-gold-medal-favourite-Caster-Semenya-takes-gender-test-hours-World-Championship-race.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207653/Womens-800m-gold-medal-favourite-Caster-Semenya-takes-gender-test-hours-World-Championship-race.html)
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fuck her and find out?
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No thanks.
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SO thrash would never have an answer.
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I read that they were going to do some tests...
Here's an idea, check her for a penis.
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[thrash]I'd hit it[/thrash]
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That is hands down a man.
Dude looks like a lady.................but not his one. Dude looks like a dude
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I like this picture where he's stompin on that bitche's face:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/19/article-1207653-061372CC000005DC-981_468x366.jpg)
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She's black and there's no bulge. You know what they say about black guys...
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That they're lazy and steal things?
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That's a stereotype.
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Sorry...what were you saying?
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I was reading about this today at work. I didn't have anything to do.
I think she's a woman, and I pretty much agree with what I've read about it. The officials fucked up by going to the media.
Also from http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/30/olympicgames2008.gender (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/30/olympicgames2008.gender)
Santhi Soundarajan
One of the most tragic recent cases is yet to reach a conclusion. Soundarajan, a 27-year-old Indian athlete, has had to endure public humiliation after she was stripped of her silver medal for the 800m at the Asian games in 2006. Soundarajan, who has lived her entire life as a woman, failed a gender test, which usually includes examinations by a gynaecologist, endocrinologist, psychologist and a genetic expert. The precise results of the test have not been made public, but it has been reported that the likely cause is a condition called Androgen insensitivity syndrome, where a person has the physical characteristics of a woman but whose genetic make-up includes a male chromosome. The Canadian cyclist Kristen Worley, who has undergone sex reassignment surgery, is one of a number of people who are calling for Soundarajan's medal to be reinstated. "It should never have been handled in such a gross manner, amounting to public humiliation because of their ignorance of her condition," Worley has said. "The Olympic movement has been dealing with intersex people since the 1930s. You'd think they would have got the hang of it by now." The humiliation and prospect that her career may be over has taken its toll on Soundarajan. In September, Indian newspapers reported that she had survived a suicide attempt.
EDIT: And I almost forgot about the nazi one for you all.
Dora Ratjen
In the 1936 Olympic games in Berlin, Adolf Hitler wanted to show the world the supremacy of the Aryan race - and he needed German athletes to win. Ratjen, notable for her deep voice and her refusal to share the shower room with the other female athletes, was Germany's entry for the women's high jump. She came fourth. Britain's competitor, Dorothy Tyler, who won a silver medal, remembers her. "I had competed against Dora and I knew she was a man," she says. "You could tell by the voice and the build. But 'she' was far from the only athlete. You could tell because they would always go into the toilet to get changed. We'd go and stand on the seat of the next-door cubicle or look under the door to see if we could catch them." Tyler held the world record for the high jump, but when officials wrote to her telling her that Ratjen had broken it, she wrote back. "I said: 'She's not a woman, she's a man,'" she says. "They did some research and found 'her' serving as a waiter called Hermann, so I got my world record back again." Dora, who had been born Hermann Ratjen, had in fact been a member of the Hitler Youth and said that the Nazis had forced him to enter as a woman.
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(http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/dewiki/66/4c8359e5f125afd410568702c16e3a06.jpg)
This is Dora Ratjen...I can't believe anyone thought THAT was a woman.
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"It should never have been handled in such a gross manner, amounting to public humiliation because of their ignorance of her condition,"
Her condition gives her advantages over genetic females. Stripping her of the medal was the right thing to do, and I'm not seeing how they could have done that without revealing that she was a woman only by phenotype. It sucks, but fucking over every other competitor to avoid hurting her feelings would be entirely bullshit.
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I read that they were going to do some tests...
Here's an idea, check her for a penis.
from what i've been reading, checking the genitals is a rudimentary check on a persons sex. this is quite a complex situation and not easily answered by just checking to see if there is a penis or vagina. proper sex determination is incredibly complex and needs to include a multi-disciplinary approach.
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do the tests before announcing that shit. Honestly
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They should probably do the tests before allowing anyone to compete in the first place...Why accuse someone just because they've won?
And Dora was a full-on man, they coulda just checked for a penis.
One of the athletes I read about (after seeing Sakhi's link) was found to have testicles up inside her during her autopsy.
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Yep, it is not fair to put someone through that when you were already aware they could be disqualified.
I just hate the fact they went to the media just before she ran the race.
EDIT: If she does get disqualified then Britain brings home a silver.
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I read that they were going to do some tests...
Here's an idea, check her for a penis.
from what i've been reading, checking the genitals is a rudimentary check on a persons sex. this is quite a complex situation and not easily answered by just checking to see if there is a penis or vagina. proper sex determination is incredibly complex and needs to include a multi-disciplinary approach.
Wonder how much of THAT was going on, a century-and-a-half ago? Wonder how much of it occurred?
We may be evolving, folks,
or totally screwing up all of our generations with all this fakey food, and artifical stuff, and dna/rna experimentation on animal food crops, and, and, and.
But since i know that the Lord KNEW where we'd end up?
i call it evolution ~ THAT is the only term that conveys the meaning.
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The Olympic movement has been dealing with intersex people since the 1930s.
From the link from the guardian, so I think no.
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Her condition gives her advantages over genetic females.
Along the same lines as what I think fyrenze was getting at, the anti-doping rules for the olympics and indeed the olympics themselves are pretty ridiculous. You're not allowed to take steroids or performance-enhancing drugs because it's not fair? But yet it is somehow fair if a person's genetic makeup induces their body to create more endogenous steroids naturally? Why not just take blood samples and award the gold to the person with the most potential? I think they should allow all drugs and mix the men and women. Let's let people modify themselves (http://www.oscarpistorius.co.za/) on purpose. I want to see monsters. They have the special- and para-olympics. Let's see the no-holds-barred hyper-olympics.
Also there should be an Olympic Thunderdome event.
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That would be pretty fucking sweet.
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Her condition gives her advantages over genetic females.
Along the same lines as what I think fyrenze was getting at, the anti-doping rules for the olympics and indeed the olympics themselves are pretty ridiculous. You're not allowed to take steroids or performance-enhancing drugs because it's not fair? But yet it is somehow fair if a person's genetic makeup induces their body to create more endogenous steroids naturally? Why not just take blood samples and award the gold to the person with the most potential? I think they should allow all drugs and mix the men and women. Let's let people modify themselves (http://www.oscarpistorius.co.za/) on purpose. I want to see monsters. They have the special- and para-olympics. Let's see the no-holds-barred hyper-olympics.
Also there should be an Olympic Thunderdome event.
She didn't choose to be born this way, she didn't do anything special for it. She just has a natural advantage. Should we then have the rules that only people that have the same body weight, the same body structure, leg length can race each other?
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TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVES!
And of course, bust a deal, face the wheel.
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TWO MEN ENTER! ONE MAN LEAVES!
That's what Sasha said...
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I see no signs of breasts, or even almost breasts. I say MAN!
The tests should be done BEFORE the person competes, I think. It would keep things like this from happening in the first place.
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I'm going to laugh at you all when she turns out to be a woman.
I'm going to laugh at your thinly-veiled homophobia when she turns out to be a man.
Win-win for me.
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The tests should be done BEFORE the person competes, I think.
They did do the tests before, only hours before the race apparently.
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Along the same lines as what I think fyrenze was getting at, the anti-doping rules for the olympics and indeed the olympics themselves are pretty ridiculous. You're not allowed to take steroids or performance-enhancing drugs because it's not fair? But yet it is somehow fair if a person's genetic makeup induces their body to create more endogenous steroids naturally? Why not just take blood samples and award the gold to the person with the most potential? I think they should allow all drugs and mix the men and women. Let's let people modify themselves (http://www.oscarpistorius.co.za/) on purpose. I want to see monsters. They have the special- and para-olympics. Let's see the no-holds-barred hyper-olympics.
Also there should be an Olympic Thunderdome event.
That would be pretty fucking sweet.
What ^^^ HE ^^^ SaY!
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She didn't choose to be born this way, she didn't do anything special for it. She just has a natural advantage. Should we then have the rules that only people that have the same body weight, the same body structure, leg length can race each other?
Hmmm, COMPLETE categorization/segregation, in order to provide equality...
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Also there should be an Olympic Thunderdome event.
YES.
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Tests? Why do they have to do a fucking series of tests? The only test is does she have a dick? Check yes or no.
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ummm
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I think all performance enhancer should be legal in all sports. I want to see what humans can do with their bodies pushed to the limits. Let's see 800ft homeruns. Let's see a running back carry the entire D line on his back while moving down field. It's sports... Entertainment and business. What makes more business, the HIGHER the ENTERTAINMENT factor.
Let's see just complete raw power combined with tactical finesse.
Have at it!
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She didn't choose to be born this way, she didn't do anything special for it. She just has a natural advantage. Should we then have the rules that only people that have the same body weight, the same body structure, leg length can race each other?
Hmmm, COMPLETE categorization/segregation, in order to provide equality...
Civil rights movement has come a long way in your part of the world, eh? ;)
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Well it would have to since they booted all the muslims to Pakistan...
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Civil rights? Is that like when you come to a 4-way stop sign, and the dude in the biggest, ugliest vehicle gets to go first?
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That's Civic rights....
(http://www.designercars.dk/biler/Honda-Civic-0.gif)
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Well, i DID go to High School in Japan...
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/sep/11/caster-semenya-withdraws-race-south-africa (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/sep/11/caster-semenya-withdraws-race-south-africa)
So, she's a hermaphrodite apparently..
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But still not a man.
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So South Africa is threatening war if she is disqualified...I say let her run, it's not like female athletes are very girlie in the first place...
Besides, I'm afraid South Africa will attack us all with sticks.
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Not just any war. I believe the term they used was "World War 3." I haven't heard that kind of language since GWB used it in the 2006 election cycle.
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ooooh very scary black people...
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you stupid motherfucker, haven't you seen District 9??? South Africa has an army of bug people ready to murder for CAT FOOD.
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No you stupid father sucker, I haven't seen District 9 because I had to listen to your spoilers and Sasha's cowering.
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my spoilers were in tiny text. :P
but it hardly matters.
I wouldn't screw with South Africa.
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Yeah. They talk funny.
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my spoilers were in tiny text. :P
but it hardly matters.
I wouldn't screw with South Africa.
Their Rugby team is killer.
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Ah, South Africa, the unjust-yet-functional apartheid nation which through the charisma and political pull of just one jailed terrorist became an unjust, utterly dysfunctional basket case.
I wouldn't worry much about a country that couldn't find enough of it's own sailors without AIDS to crew a submarine on its maiden journey.
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Hahahaha!
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So who's gonna suck on her salty nuts when the test results are revealed?
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I thought the test results were already revealed? She has no ovaries, just testicles pumping lots of testosterone.
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test results were leaked but they haven't officially been released, I think.
(sorry, I made a seriously bad typo).
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Agreed. It's not official until they stamp her forehead "female" or "male"...
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She's from South Africa and she's "bleck". Don't they tattoo barcodes on the back of their Bantus necks or something?
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"Kinda hard to believe that no one is screaming Racism!
Cripes! EVERYone knows black athletes are better than white ones, so what's the gripe?"
she said, tongue-in-cheek
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"Kinda hard to believe that no one is screaming Sexism!
Cripes! EVERYone knows male athletes are better than female ones, so what's the gripe?"
she said, tongue-in-cheek
Fixed
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Testicles make you go faster.
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Ball bearings!
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Testicles make you go faster.
So, ummm, anyone WITH Testes can go faster than anyone withOUT 'em?
i don't think so
especially not if the skin of one quick-dries from a puff of breeze,
thereby causing it to STICK, like Mick, to your leg,
causing MASSIVE injury and pain, especially when those short hairs pluck themselves,
not to SPEAK of what is CoNtAiNeD within that skin.
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* shoots self in face
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* shoots self in face with Empscum
Fixed!
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Hmmm ...
1) it'd make him go faster
2) you're fitting in nicely here; it was even pretty much in context
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* shoots self in face with Empscum
Fixed!
This works on so many levels.