Loaded-Gun.Com - Anti-Social.Com's Rejects!
General Category => Politics, Philosophy, News and/or Current Affairs => Topic started by: Tru on September 07, 2009, 02:58:53 PM
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Yes because killing people always solves the problem.
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This shit is kinda cute for maybe five minutes coming from a 20 year old college girl with perky tits, not so much from shrill middle-aged weirdos.
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every society since the dawn of time has had a system, some people learn how to work it and succeed, others fail. Every so often the rich succeed too much and are kicked out
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Sounds like it's about time for some ass-kicking
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Absolutely, the rich need a boot in the ass.
On the other hand we need to stop watching INVENTED VIDEOS and using INVENTED AND MISQUOTED BULLSHIT to judge history.
This was invented and misquoted bullshit. Wilson stood by his conviction, however misguided. And Obama IS an American.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Soros, Obama, Moore, Pelosi, Penn, Kerry,
the Kennedys... these people need to go, post-haste.
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Mis-attributed
Possibly, but the quote was only a minor part of the post nit picker.
I've seen that quote or something very similar in text that far predates the internet so fuck you big boy.
Anyway crying so loudly about a misquote on a thread intended to remind everyone of the struggle between the haves and have not's and where the government has always stood on the matter on this day and the struggle for decent wages and living conditions only serves to misdirect attention away from the actual reality of our current situation you fucking tool.
But I agree, I didn't research the actual text of the quote this morning when I posted that, I did a quick search cut & paste. I only remembered it from something I read a couple decades ago so instead of trying to paraphrase it I tried to find a valid quote to post.
Fine I admit, I don't think it matters if it's a valid quote or not, I believe the truth of it, that the crimes of what Wilson helped do to this country as part of a proven international conspiracy is valid. Whether he ever actually admitted it or not, I am sure he would have understood it was true.
And as for "Yes because killing people always solves the problem." We are going to need a few fewer pacifists in the heard in the coming years.
And those families who are most guilty for the state of the world today and their close associates should be made to pay far more than the coming unavoidable suffering of the common man, for their centuries long crimes against humanity. There is no other possible redress for this situation.
In my opinion.
Btw all of your sources discrediting the quote are extremely recent. Convenient eh.
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Wow. I said that wiki is known to be wrong... chill out old dude.
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Well you are right Zoomie and I thank you for prodding me, I wouldn't have refreshed my thoughts on this without your input.
What I have found out is the quote apparently is a compilation of several parts of Wilson's 1913 book "The New Freedom: A Call For the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People" (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14811/14811-h/14811-h.htm) and possibly word of mouth statements he made in private.
I found this bit already, The great monopoly in this country is the monopoly of big credits. So long as that exists, our old variety and freedom and individual energy of development are out of the question. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, even if their action be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom. This is the greatest question of all, and to this statesmen must address themselves with an earnest determination to serve the long future and the true liberties of men.
That bit alone is enough to discredit the quote as posted.
But also apparently there is at least one text dating back to 1924 where the main lines in question come from.
"The American Mercury by George Jean Nathan, Henry Louis Mencken, 1924, p. 56 [1]
"President Woodrow Wilson-( After breaking with the engineers of the Fed Act, and near his death), "I am a most unhappy man; unwittingly I have ruined my ...".
So it may have been a word of mouth thing that got passed around and everyone believed it was true, and maybe it is. I don't know. Some attribute the quote to his book but that one line is all I've found so far. I haven't read the whole text yet but it's clear Wilson had no problem describing what was going on but he also and at the same time in many ways acts as an apologist for the growing cancer.
I have to say tentatively based on what I've just read skimming through Wilson's book so far,
Even though parts of the quote may possibly be made up and others may be taken slightly out of context. I think the wording of the quote is an ingenious condensation.
Although it may actually give him too much credit as to possibly regretting his part.
Humm ... the origin of the quote may have had other purposes than the obvious. I'll need to think about that.
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I was surprised at how many people I saw at the airport this weekend were glad for their labor day vacation, but did not think that socialism offered any value to America.
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Oh the irony...