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General Category => Politics, Philosophy, News and/or Current Affairs => Topic started by: Emperor Reagan on October 27, 2009, 01:23:41 PM

Title: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: Emperor Reagan on October 27, 2009, 01:23:41 PM
http://www.dni.gov/nic/NIC_2025_project.html (http://www.dni.gov/nic/NIC_2025_project.html)

and an article on the topic:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175131/michael_klare_the_great_superpower_meltdown (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175131/michael_klare_the_great_superpower_meltdown)

The only question is when the fact of the decline of American dominance will start to factor into our decision making.

We should be using the decline to rebuild our failing domestic programs - health care, infrastructure, etc. while trying to better relationships across the board in foreign policy.  The US is wasting tons of resources on efforts that do absolutely nothing to position ourselves better for a decline in influence/wealth/etc.

Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: ttfg on October 27, 2009, 01:31:25 PM
Shame the USA didnt put more into Mexico. Sure alot of Manu. and Assem. jobs went south...but still...seems like a lost op.

and who is 'our' in 'our decision making' ? (poli,buss,citizens(?))
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: Emperor Reagan on October 27, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
The elites in the US should recognize that the rising & expanding powers in India, Brazil, China, etc. are not going to bring them along for the ride after years of getting fucked over.  So if they're smart, they'll recognize that their fate is tied to the fate of this country.
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: ttfg on October 27, 2009, 02:30:46 PM
Just a curiosity... You think that not joining with Mexico when they had a chance is bad ? or joining with anybody else would of been a bad idea and they should of always thought within the borders.
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: Emperor Reagan on October 27, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
I think that something like a proper North American union would probably have been a good idea, instead of the free trade agreement that they put together to gut wealth from everyone.
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: Libertine on October 27, 2009, 11:05:29 PM
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: taiko on October 28, 2009, 09:55:30 AM
I've been hearing for 5 years (at my last job) about how BRIC countries were going to be where we get more money.  As it turns out, they're investing in local business, not foreign (what we would consider local).  It's been a big punch in the nuts for a lot of US companies, from what I understand.
Title: Re: Even the NIC recognizes the decline of the US
Post by: Emperor Reagan on October 28, 2009, 09:59:43 AM
I was just surprised to see them admit what they did.  It may be obvious, but government reports often are optimistic to the point of absurdity.