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General Category => Politics, Philosophy, News and/or Current Affairs => Topic started by: Zoomie on November 12, 2009, 06:36:30 PM
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Full article Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111116943.html).
Catholic Church gives D.C. ultimatum
The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it will be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District if the city doesn't change a proposed same-sex marriage law, a threat that could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness and health care.
Under the bill, headed for a D.C. Council vote next month, religious organizations would not be required to perform or make space available for same-sex weddings. But they would have to obey city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay men and lesbians.
Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples, church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city.
"If the city requires this, we can't do it," Susan Gibbs, spokeswoman for the archdiocese, said Wednesday. "The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular. For us, that's really a problem."
Several D.C. Council members said the Catholic Church is trying to erode the city's long-standing laws protecting gay men and lesbians from discrimination.
The clash escalates the dispute over the same-sex marriage proposal between the council and the archdiocese, which has generally stayed out of city politics.
Catholic Charities, the church's social services arm, is one of dozens of nonprofit organizations that partner with the District. It serves 68,000 people in the city, including the one-third of Washington's homeless people who go to city-owned shelters managed by the church. City leaders said the church is not the dominant provider of any particular social service, but the church pointed out that it supplements funding for city programs with $10 million from its own coffers.
"All of those services will be adversely impacted if the exemption language remains so narrow," Jane G. Belford, chancellor of the Washington Archdiocese, wrote to the council this week.
The church's influence seems limited. In separate interviews Wednesday, council member Mary M. Cheh (D-Ward 3) referred to the church as "somewhat childish." Another council member, David A. Catania (I-At Large), said he would rather end the city's relationship with the church than give in to its demands.
"They don't represent, in my mind, an indispensable component of our social services infrastructure," said Catania, the sponsor of the same-sex marriage bill and the chairman of the Health Committee.
The standoff appears to be among the harshest between a government and a faith-based group over the rights of same-sex couples. Advocates for same-sex couples said they could not immediately think of other places where a same-sex marriage law had set off a break with a major faith-based provider of social services.
The council is expected to pass the same-sex marriage bill next month, but the measure continues to face strong opposition from a number of groups that are pushing for a referendum on the issue.
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Churches should all have their non-profit status taken away because none of them can keep their toes out of politics.
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Should never be put to referendum, should just be judicial activism for a basic civil rights issue.
Would blacks be integrated into schools and be allowed to vote if it had been "put to referendum" in the South?
Fuck the Catholics in the ass with a cross.
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Simple answer - churches now pay the same taxes as regular companies in that state.
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Yeah, now, THERE's a Real Christian attitude:
i don't get how the church thinks that the folks they help should be punished for something those folks have nothing to do with ??
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it's like deporting children of immigrants!
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I STILL don't get how churches get to hold tickets to political happenings without paying the admission price ...
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I STILL don't get how churches get to hold tickets to political happenings without paying the admission price ...
Illusions abound eh.
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I love Catholic girls.
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Mmmmmmm
(http://www.timdrussell.com/images/blog/PresentlyPlaying/catholicgirlsfront.jpg)
In my mind, the girl on her knees is Geek in high school.
Because we know Geek spent her high school years on her knees...
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Man, if I had a record player I would have so bought that record!
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I would have bought it for the cover, I don't let lack of assets interfere with an astute purchase like cock-man here
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Why buy vinyl?
Can you actually PLAY them? Do you even HAVE a turntable?
Want the cover? SHOP IT.
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Y'all need to listen to Carlin's "My Shit is Stuff and Your Stuff is Shit."
IT'S ALL JUST STUFF AND SHIT.
When you looked at it, for the first time?
THAT was what meant something ~ what YOU thought, what YOU felt, the pic YOU took of that moment.
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duh, you buy things to have them.
I shouldn't really be taking this side of the debate, my useless possession count is low
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duh, you buy things to have them.
I shouldn't really be taking this side of the debate, my useless possession count is low
Mine is astronomical.
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ok, but excluding neuroses... how many ?
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I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks.
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I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks.
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I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks rules except when you have to move.
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I've been giving away or selling a lot of my useless possessions.
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Isn't that supposed to be one of the signs suicide watchers are told to look for?
No wait. I think that's giving away things of personal value, not useless possessions.
Never mind.
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I'll be watching him anyway. Hope you feel better Mike.
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Don't worry, not going to kill myself over getting a cold for thanksgiving.
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Don't worry, not going to kill myself over getting a cold for thanksgiving.
What if it's the Swine Flu?
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What if its the AIDS?
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AIDS is cool now.
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What if its the CATHOLIC AIDS?
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You mean the one that can't be stopped by condoms? OH NOOOOOOES!
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Catholic AIDS is terrifying. If I caught that, I would kill myself.
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Since my move I've given away tons of shit I forgot I even had ...
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I really, really would like to set my car on fire. (there's nothing wrong with it, I just have this irrational urge to set it on fire)
That counts as giving it away.
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Still one of the dumbest decisions of my life. I could've bought a $2,000 piece of shit and not had a car payment that ties me to working.
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Uhhhh not gonna rub it in, been there. Which is why I drive $1000 shit box trucks until they fall apart on Rt 29. THEN I light em up and walk.
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I went through that on a mini-level with my computer. I will never buy anything that's not for investment without paying cash again
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Still one of the dumbest decisions of my life. I could've bought a $2,000 piece of shit and not had a car payment that ties me to working.
I did that all my life til the current car... It'll be paid off next month.
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just saw this thread. I am so happy I gave up the shackles of religion years ago.
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fucking catholics
first they scare peoples childhoods out of them then they get offended by simpsons episodes
i hope theres a special place in hell for them
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(http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/pic31500preview.jpg)
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Hahahaha!
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oh that is good
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Oh man... that got a chuckle out of me!
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Catholics didn't steal the childhood out of me! It just made sinning more thrilling!
More jesus sightings..
Las Vegas (KTNV) - A Las Vegas woman says she's seeing a sign from above when she answers nature's call. Magdalena Nelson's guest bathroom screams "I love Las Vegas." But while she was cleaning last week, she says an image of Jesus appeared on the bumper sticker on the toilet lid.
Her boyfriend now says he sees the image and it's given them a positive feeling after they almost lost their home to foreclosure. Nelson says she's even willing to let visitors come see it, if it might help them as well.
If you'd like to make an appointment to see the "image", you can email Magdelana at:
maggier_nelson@yahoo.com
Stay tuned to Action News for any new developments on this story.