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General Category => Politics, Philosophy, News and/or Current Affairs => Topic started by: mosh on February 21, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
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We out here in the less developed and somewhat differently civilized parts of the world see Obama and his posse far more positively than the previous Bush administration. Thing is, we only see things that our media selectively allow us to see about the Obama administration, we dont have to live with it to the same degree as you guys.
So, is it working? Is the Obama crew doing the bidness?
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He seems to have had quite a few problems with various nominations being non-tax-paying pricks, but it's only really been a month so it remains to be seen how things will be when everything settles down a bit.
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Yeah, got those news snippets down here too... seems to me maybe some good has come of it by flushing out these shifty bastards...
I get that he's still settling into the job and all, but I also knew Howard was going to be a rat bastard a month into being Prime Minister... so I figure there'd be some sense of how Obama's term is going to travel.
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He's going to cure cancer and send us all checks that will save the world!
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More than anything he seems kinda inexperienced, which was the main criticism of him anyway.
But with the global economy in the shape it's in, the various wars going on, and the general mess Bush and his cronies have made over the last 8 years, I'm willing to suspend my doubts about him for a bit. Admittedly I'm a fan of his and was very glad when he was elected. But because of that, I (and a lot of people) have high expectations. If he truly fucks around and turns out to be nothing like he promised, people will turn on him very quickly. He promised change, so let's see it.
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he's been very clever to do everything as openly as he has, this means the crowd opposing him have to do it openly and explain their motives.
While I disagree with most of the stimulus bill the Republican crowd came out looking like a bunch of tools
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More than anything he seems kinda inexperienced, which was the main criticism of him anyway.
But with the global economy in the shape it's in, the various wars going on, and the general mess Bush and his cronies have made over the last 8 years, I'm willing to suspend my doubts about him for a bit. Admittedly I'm a fan of his and was very glad when he was elected. But because of that, I (and a lot of people) have high expectations. If he truly fucks around and turns out to be nothing like he promised, people will turn on him very quickly. He promised change, so let's see it.
Every new leader is inexperienced... doesnt matter if they've been a leader of a state or province, the demands of a Federal system are much much greater. Howard fucked up a bunch of stuff (and lied his way out of it) for the first year or so, Rudd got off to a shaky start too. Bush never got over his inexperience at all, he was making stupid mistakes right to the end.
I think even if Obama doesnt manage to achieve anything, he's been a calming influence, or at least that's my take... so that's gotta be a plus to begin with.
He's going to cure cancer and send us all checks that will save the world!
Can I sign up for some of that, or am I too much of a dirty furiner? Coz I could do with a new flat screen TV.
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Sorry Mosh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmf3Waio9E
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This talk of bank nationalization is crazy scary.
My Scientology friend and I always talk about the New World Order, and shit. One World Government starts with a one world bank. The World Bank will shortly become THE only banking system, with ALL funds controlled by the elite and the state.
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so become one of the elite and stop that shit
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Sorry Mosh...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmf3Waio9E
I'm the good Irish, not the bad Irish.
Can I have some land too?
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Good Irish. bad Irish, it's all a matter of perspective and opinion.
Didn't Cromwell give you some land once? And look what happened...
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what are you bitching about, they gave you a continent.
When you get here you're cooking me Irish food. You only need taters and cabbage right?
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FUCK!
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Need more than spuds and fartgrass... butter, buttermilk, and any number of pig meats... and scallions.
Champ is the greatest food ever.
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Right you're on the hook for making that in October.
I'll make you an omelette, I make really great omelettes
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Obama is the new Jesus!
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2008/11/04/obama-supporters-cry-cp-579.jpg)
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Our Father,
Who art in Washington
Hallowed by thy bailout
thy new world order come...
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/560/slide_560_12123_large.jpg)
(http://www.jesus-christ-channel.com/images/Jesus-crying-facing-earth.jpg)
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(http://www.jesus-christ-channel.com/images/Jesus-crying-facing-earth.jpg)
This was my sig pic on another site. The caption was "U Guyz Jus' Aint Proselytizing Hard Enough".
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*hi 5*
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Hi5 is lame. Facebook's much better.
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I voted for Obama, after I came out of the republican seizure I appear to have had from 2000-2005 for whatever reason, and celebrated with friends and whiskey that night when we saw CNN call it. I wanna know what happened tot he Star Wars holoprojector they were using that night, it looked neat.
I'm not sure I agree with this Afghanistan stuff he seems to be trying to start, but I'm gonna hide and watch on that one.
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Most of the shit thats coming out of the Islamic world is coming from Pakistan. Afghanistan is a convienient staging point to beat the shit out of the northern tribal area's.
What I see happening from this is that the Talib's will overthrow Pakistan, get their hands on Nukes and fuck it royally for the lot of us. Already the Talibs have a strangle hold on those tribal area's, and with the Pakistani government essentially screwed by its own corruption, it will be relatively easy for the Talibs to rally support and take over.
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Yeah, on Real Time last Friday Maher was taking about the blowing up girls' school shit they're doing and said that there might as well not be a borderline dividing the two countries.
What's funny is that if you'd told me in 1996 that in ten years I'd be a big fan of Bill Maher I'd have fucking shot you.
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Biggest fuck up bush made was taking the world's attention away from the Taliban and focussing it on Iraq.
And Fuse, welcome back to normality.
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Glad to be here.
And I think his biggest fuckup was the way was his administration treated prisoners and tried to assrape civil rights and personal privacy. Guantanamo Bay, wiretapping, waterboarding, etc. He might have slipped under the radar with the Iraq War alone because it was *almost* justified. I'm still somewhat of the stance that the war needed to happen, just not the way he did it, going against the UN.
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Oh yeah, this was posted in my Obama channel a feww weeks before election night. I was hypnotically obsessed by its awesomeness for days...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekCI8UdDsKU
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It started going south a little before that. Clinton formally authorized Extraordinary Rendition in 1995 and he was the one who removed a lot of the banking regulations that had been put in place during the Depression.
Still, Bush....
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I think they're going to follow the successful Iraqi strategy of paying off the various groups to calm down for a while, which will allow for some short-term stabilization while laying the groundwork for an even more disasterous future.
Kind of like all those games we played over the previous 30 years that have blown up in our faces now.
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It started going south a little before that. Clinton formally authorized Extraordinary Rendition in 1995 and he was the one who removed a lot of the banking regulations that had been put in place during the Depression.
Still, Bush....
ED! Dude! How's Canadia?
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Obama is being forced over a barrel and being fucked in the ass by international corporations.
He should not only let corporations such as GM go down the fucking drain but with the kind of funds they are demanding from the US taxpayers to supposedly remain solvent he should hold the corporation criminal and shut their asses down. He should have ignored the artificial Financial Crisis and prosecuted the bush administration for war crimes and crimes against humanity. That should have been his first priority because by ignoring the cabal not only is the US continuing to be massively looted on a scale that's really difficult to even imagine but because without dealing with and curtailing their power nothing for the US will ever be right.
He may have big ideas for changing America but you can tell by how closely both bush's and Clinton are standing by him that he will be forced to follow along the prior course set out for him. He will have no choice, the cabal controls the global economy and intelligence. They set the stage as they see fit and a leader who isn't already in their pocket is easily steered by the show they put on.
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I'm telling you guys, he's making sense these days...
Until he launches into that diatribe about the illuminati... then the batshit flows through...
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I always thought Tru made sense... it was just in a round about way.
Like Nostradamus.
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>>Until he launches into that diatribe about the illuminati... then the batshit flows through...<<
You guys can't get past the fact I mentioned how easy it is to actually influence the brain of a target using modern technical tactics. That's why I earned the tin foil hat admonishments. But what you fail to realize is that is exactly how you are SUPPOSED to react and how valid the tactics really can be.
Nevertheless that technology is only a very small tool reserved for special cases in the arsenal available for use against us. Heart attacks, strokes and rapid cancer are easy, no more need for brain shots such as Kennedy.
I don't know about Illuminati, all I know is what I've figured out by myself through decades of observation. When I use the term "Cabal" I use it as a catch all because I don't know the names of all the current people involved ... but I can see it happening and you have to understand that the names of the top people involved, such as the names of the twelve top people who actually OWN the federal reserve (a privately owned, mostly foreign owned corporation) and control world banking will never be mentioned in any media broadcast.
The US public has been a tool for many decades.
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64 proven sets of coincidences still don't make a conspiracy. I'm not saying there ISN'T one, just that it hasn't been proven to me...yet.
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Fair enough.
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Holy fucking shit! Ed! Dude! Welcome back!!
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I think Jim Goad said it best in The Redneck Manifests in his chapter on Militias and the media's hysteria over them, saying something along the lines of "The militia-chasers insist that the KKK is STILL politically powerful throughout the country, yet they'll jeer at the notion that the World Bank or CIA are influential."
Still, I don't think there's much more to this conspiracy than a nod and a wink between old money. What else could they possibly conspire to do? They own everything. The little the rest of us have is just enough to keep us from realizing how poor we really are. Those big screen T.V.s are pacifiers, not wealth or real status, and they're also just the ticket to keep us from realizing just why Aunt June can't afford her medicine and doing something about it.
About a thousand people currently hold 1/2 to 2/3 of the entire world's wealth. There's no point to conspire to take the rest of it, they've got more than they need. Plus they have to be aware that taking more will surely cause mass rebellion. Do you think they've forgotten the French Revolution?
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The older I get, the more I begin to agree with you, Krsna
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The older I get, the less I care.
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>>About a thousand people currently hold 1/2 to 2/3 of the entire world's wealth. There's no point to conspire to take the rest of it, they've got more than they need. Plus they have to be aware that taking more will surely cause mass rebellion. Do you think they've forgotten the French Revolution? <<
Well I agree in many respects. However money today is only a tool, it has no real value. The looting isn't being done to make more billionaires although obviously that will be one result. However there must be something more to it than simply greed. I can't quite see the value of crashing the world economy on purpose either, but then people like us are pretty far removed from their world and wouldn't natively have much insight into the forms of manipulation this situation allows.
It actually could be designed to eventually spark revolt so that the current form of government can be discarded while turning weapons of mass destruction loose on the populations of the world to reduce ... crowding? Or what?
Anyway I don't think any argument can be made that the formation of the Federal Reserve wasn't a direct result of conspiracy. Even a cursory investigation proves this is a fact.The Federal Reserve itself is a scam, an international privately owned bank that controls the currency of the entire nation, one that has created a situation where the operating currency of the entire nation is loaned by them to the government forcing income tax to be collected from the public to pay the interest. The IRS is nothing more than a collection agency for the FR.
But you are right, they don't need the money, they have almost all of it anyway. But remember that paper money today has no more real value than junk mail. It's all about the perception of value. Nope, there has to be a bigger reason for it than simply accruing more of the money into the hands of the very few. One thing that is pretty easy to understand is that a nation in financial turmoil has far more people willing and eager to join the military and it's much easier to direct the pent up energy of a nations people into external wars when a nation is on the verge of revolt.
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The older I get, the more I begin to agree with you, Krsna
Cool!
Wait, about what?
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But remember that paper money today has no more real value than junk mail. It's all about the perception of value.
Sure, with a fiat based economy the only value the fiat has is the promise it can be exchanged for goods or services, but you already said that. The paper money isn't what's important, it's the machinery, land and resources that are the real wealth, just like it's always been.
Personally, if there were a real conspiracy to further tighten the stranglehold on the world's wealth and power and I were involved in it, I'd be gunning for those maverick hedge fund managers who are gathering up billions like crazy.
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you can change the puppet, but it's still a fuckin' show...