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General Category => Discontempt => Topic started by: Zoomie on June 24, 2009, 09:22:04 PM
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I'm not asking because I want to go, I do want to, but those of us in the Northeast area need to get ready for the Third Annual Loaded-Gun Bash at the Beach. This will be a going away party for Cain/Chitownoi/Joe and in honor of his going to live with the Alamanni for a while. That means he's going to that lovely place that is heavily infested with Krauts.
Sailing, kayaking,boating, swimming, wanton vandalism of St Clements Island, grilling of meats and veggies, camping, and lots unnecessary consumption of alcohol. Midnight skinnydipping for those who aren't total pussies. The honorable Steeleye Dragylyude, slayer of dragons, Clan Champion of the Concusar, Shaman to the bogtroopers and Archdruid of the United Celtic Clans may or may not be in attendance.
Dates forthcoming.
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Nov. 1st - 7th
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I will resume drinking whiskey at this party.
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Is this likely to be held in October?
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Nah, Joe leaves around 8-20. I'm thinking Aug 1st.
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So... August 1st. I need to know if this works for you all.
Geek +
Krapsna +
Libertine
Beeyot?
Thrash (get your ass up here man, this might be the last for a while)
Anyone else, you're welcome to come, there's always extra beds and camping gear.
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I'll have like a one month old baby then. Won't be able to make it.
Man, I need to stop having kids. It's really putting a damper on my partying.
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Can't do Aug 1 cause I have a gig.
Here's my gig dates:
July 8-11 14-16, 18, 22, 24, 25
Aug 1
Detroit has a gigs on the following dates:
July 16, 18, 22, 23-25, 29
Aug 11, 14
Looks like we could do Aug 8th, 9th, 10th...
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You guys are busy.
The only confirmed thing I have is to go work on a farming/permaculture commune August 7-9.
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That leaves plenty of time for you to come up here and see what we are doing!
Kidding
Not really.
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I actually am thinking of spending a weekend in Philly again sometime soon.
I have never done any of the tourist stuff, aside from the dueling cheese steak corners.
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Looks like we could do Aug 8th, 9th, 10th...
work on a farming/permaculture commune August 7-9
You fuckers are a lot of help. It wouldn't be a party without BOTH of you...
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How did that not get a "dirty hippie" reply ?
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Because he isn't. Permaculture and alternative energy aren't just for hippies anymore. I should know, Steeleye and I have formed an alternative energy consulting firm and we're not...
...oh never mind...
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Yes....I know....Even I grow my own, got the solar panels up and ye old water tank, gray water reuse and whatnot....
but still.....he might be showing up and you still dont....nm.
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We're developing a turnkey system of 1000 watts of solar and wind, amost completely made of recycled materials. Pretty much everything but the PV cells, the gen windings and the storage bank will be free junk. Having fun with it. And I'm building a vertical axis omni-directional blade set.
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VAWT isnt very efficient ??
I know the pros and cons...so your going to ease of use ? and install i guess. oh and maint. hmm. interesting.
edit: I wasent suggesting the turnkey has anything to do withthe blade design thing.
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I can make a vertical more efficient by hand turning the windings in a three strand configuration and connecting them in a 3-phase star pattern. I might patent it.
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can you not do aug 9?
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One day? C'mon, we need a full weekend out there.
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SO better wire use ? I dont know enough to understand how changing the wire pattern would change things. ..
nm, you might not be typing about the wires at all...wouldnt have a clue.
edit: duh... the gen set. me slow.
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Yes, it's simple. Your windings are three strand, making a three phase generator, then they are wired in an alternating pattern like odds and evens or 1-4-7-10, 2-5-8-11 and 3-6-9-12. That also cuts down on the overspeed cutout of a vertical axis turbine which will turn much faster than a horizontal.
After that it's all in charge controller, storage and load.
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i could do that whole weekend. That's what i meant by "Aug 9". I should have put "The weekend of..."
As a side note, i ran the air today and realized... there's no more air vent in the kitchen!!! Hah! Maybe you can cut that out when you get this piano? *puppy eyes*
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Ummm... oops.
Did you paint over the stencil marks and measurements on the wall where it goes?
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Paint?! PAINT?! Please. We aren't even close to paint.
I am done with the god damn drywall. And Detroit will be by tomorrow, too. Per our agreement.
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Yes, it's simple. Your windings are three strand, making a three phase generator, then they are wired in an alternating pattern like odds and evens or 1-4-7-10, 2-5-8-11 and 3-6-9-12. That also cuts down on the overspeed cutout of a vertical axis turbine which will turn much faster than a horizontal.
After that it's all in charge controller, storage and load.
I'm really confused...Are you typing about winding the coils with three strand wire ?
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Yes. Then connecting the three strands in an alternating pattern. That way you get three distinct sources of current more widely distributed in the magnetic field. Less chance of high speed cutout, MORE current.
It'll work. Cuz I'm a fuckin genius.
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You dont get 3 phase power though....
no wait...you are typing about winding the coils of a 3 phase gen.....with 3 wires on each coil right ? no...you cant be...cuase thats just insane and wont "create" 3 phase....cuase it IS 3 phase.
let me try and figure this out....nope. its still insane.
3 wires with current, yes...3 phase powe,r no. The way you describe alternating the wires will give you the same current on all wires at the same time.
and you wont get more current than the stock wired unit....because if just adding more wire gave you more current.....thats how stock gens would be made. ( good stock units ).
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How would you make it more efficiently?
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Had to find it.
total power = 3V2P (over) 2R
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OK, you type about a "star" patern...if the wires are all equaly exposed to the mag....it wont change the freq. Even if they are not all equally exposed, the leak will create a constant output from each coil.
Adding more wire wont create more power...you can only increase the output by increasing the mag field.
as for making it more efficient ? ummm...wire type ? Gold conducts better ? I mean I dont know a way to make it more efficient....if i did, I wouldnt post it here and miss out on become a billionaire.
edit : constant output meaning what the 3 strand wire gives you....each coil would had a freq flux.
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Porcelain coated copper.
Guess you'll have to trust me. I'm still trying to figure out some type of tachometer so I can fine tune it before I embed the windings in polyester resin. And I have to figure out how to weatherproof the windings and stator out of something else normally disposable. Something cone-shaped over cone-shaped.
A drive through the Port of Baltimore scrap yard tomorrow will work that out.
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James Lovelock says that alternate energy sources are a waste of time anyway, there's no getting off the boat ride to hell on earth!
If the only possible weekend is the 7-9, I can postpone my visit to the following month. I'll stumble my way into dirty hippy permaculture communal living eventually.
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James Lovelock is a big fat poopyhead. I'm building these for two reasons. One, to make some money, so I can move to WV, and build more so I don't have to pay an electric bill.
Thirty systems and I'm the fuck outta here.
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If you get this idea functional Zoomie....dont tell anybody and head directly to a patent laywer.AFter that, message me about it....id fly accross the world just to see it spin. seriously...no patronization.
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That'd be nice but it's already been done. Actually, the three strand and the star pattern have been done. I just thought to combine them. We'll see what happens.
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James Lovelock is a big fat poopyhead. I'm building these for two reasons. One, to make some money, so I can move to WV, and build more so I don't have to pay an electric bill.
Thirty systems and I'm the fuck outta here.
Those are good reasons. The reason I like solar is the potential to live off of the grid while still being able to use some electronic stuff.
More broadly, though, alternative energy is a waste of time as a policy objective because policy makers are too cowardly to force a "stop using so much energy, assholes" agenda down people's throats.
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We just have a wave gen place in the cities harbour for a trial....buggered if i know why...its one of the wave pushes air types. It's fucking huge...and one 100 times larger would power 40 homes..~chuckle.
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One home at a time. If everyone saw how much money they could save on a small system to take just their refrigerators and TVs off the grid, or just convert all their lighting to 12vdc LED lighting, a revolution would take place. In times of economic trouble, like now, people will spend money to save money.
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One home at a time. If everyone saw how much money they could save on a small system to take just their refrigerators and TVs off the grid, or just convert all their lighting to 12vdc LED lighting, a revolution would take place. In times of economic trouble, like now, people will spend money to save money.
I did it about 5 years back. Gov used to hand out an $8k rebate on solar panel installs (discontinued 2 weeks ago, yet to anounce a replacement). Havent gone to LED lighting though, been using Fluro blubs for 10 years or so ? longer i think..I remember my mother buying them, so must be longer. I only pay the connection fee now. I dont have panels on the Whouse roof as of yet.
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The problem is that you don't necessarily save money wen you run through the numbers, so making the argument that those options should be installed to commercial/public building managers is difficult.
Because the installed cost for solar, LED lights, more efficient equipment etc. is high, government energy cost estimates are overly optimistic, and the government reports an artificially low value for inflation, such options are usually either eliminated at the life cycle cost analysis phase due to long payback periods, or eliminated at the value engineering phase of building design.
I also don't really believe that significant numbers of people are willing to make the capital investment in things like solar without more government incentive. I think that the a couple of things about the nature of the current economic trouble makes people less likely to invest in such things:
1. With the drop in the housing market, all of those home improvements they considered financial investments aren't going to pay back in the term they were expecting.
2. The focus of the economic problems has shifted away from energy and towards other sectors of the economy. If energy was the big problem and everything else seemed relatively secure, I'd believe that people are willing to make the investment. With everything in general a bit shaky, I don't believe that enough people are willing to make such investments.
And with all of this boiling down to money to make capital investments in things like solar panels or better insulation, I think the government is going to be hamstrung in its ability to play its role in encouraging such things because it wasted way too much money lining the pockets of the fraudsters in the financial industry.
Edited to add:
There's also a lot of crap coming on to the market that is advertised as "efficient" and "sustainable" which is likely to siphon off money that could be used towards actual sustainable pursuits. I just saw something about sustainable IT and workstations...overpowered workstations with oversized monitors for administrators is not sustainable technology, no matter how many times they tell themselves 24 inch monitors or the ability to surf 300 webpages simultaneously while running Microsoft word are a necessity.
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1. With the drop in the housing market, all of those home improvements they considered financial investments aren't going to pay back in the term they were expecting.
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Not paying $200 per month to Baltimore Gas and Electric is an immediate return on the minor investment I'll make to assemble and install a system on my house.
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Tru'dat!
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you're in a different boat because you can pull it together from scrap and not pay for labor etc. It's the average whitey who's spending thousands on "extras" on his pad who's going to get boned
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There's a word for that... it's called business.
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As a side note I just found a TON of copper in the closet that holds my water main (mane? sp?)
Fittings, pipe... even copper cooking utensils!
Can't wait to sell it all
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OK 9th is no good, the white queen will be enjoying her last free weekend while Steeleye has the twins at Pennsic.
Ideas please?
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what about weekend of Aug 15th?
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That will work.
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Detroit and I can commit to that
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Awesome. I'll still go be a farmer for a weekend on the weekend prior, then renew my love affair with whiskey at the beach (though not so hot and heavy this time so I can get out on the water again).
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Winds were awesome Saturday, though I had to upwind about 4 miles back to the beach and 4 degrees of variation made the boat come about on it's own. Scary and I got clocked by the boom twice. River got another boonie hat.
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Hmmm ...
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If you'd come to one, just one of our parties, you'd know what all that meant.
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I promise I will not bring any lead shot to try to drown you while you're drunk.
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Oh, well ...
It's settled!
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What in the fuck would this possibly be other than solar panels and a windmill?
http://www.power4home.com/index.php (http://www.power4home.com/index.php)
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Could be hydro, but he spells out pretty plainly that it's wind and solar.
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Obviously written for old people who are afraid to use their CC on the web.
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I'll look at tix, but the 15 is just 3 days after my gf and I get back from a week in Cascadia. I'd really like to be able to send Joe and Sara off. And see some of y'all again, I suppose.
About that other thing. I've been dealing with bringing something to market for about a year now. I've spoken with all the machinists, molders, and suppliers I use, plus two free consultations with patent atty's in town. My product is different than yours, but here's the jist of inventing shit in America right now:
To obtain a patent can cost between 4-10grand, depending on how much research your atty has to do (a lot of which you can do yourself if you have the time/inclination). To then defend a patent in court is about another 10 grand every time it happens. There is no guarantee of recouping those costs. "Winning" the court case may get you a cease and desist order, not any damages.
Just build 'em and sell 'em. Build enough to move you to WV at once and sell through them. It will cut down on the time the thing is out there to be stolen.
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Pretty much what I had in mind Lucky.
Hope you can make it out to MD. Talk to Chi today and he won't have a car so it will be up to Geek, Emp or Tulip to drive them, but they'll be there if they can.
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Patent work is pretty depressing. I'm pretty glad that circumstances prevented my from working for the USPTO now.
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So you're just calling two-week long whiskey blinders "circumstances" now?
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Either that or conflicts of interest due to my research.
Based on their turn-over rate and the people I know that work there, I probably could have gone on a two week bender at work and as long as I was still meeting my production goals, they wouldn't care.
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Meh. We're all whores.
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I'm the pet of ebay.
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Gay thread.
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ill get him
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Put them in the trunk!
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I think I probably had more fun douching this morning than I would've had on that weekend va-ca.
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I just started working the graveyard shift at the local insane asylum and I asked for Japan trip days off. If they deny my request for time off, since I will still be on probation, I'm just going to quit. Also, I should probably learn some Japanese.
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Nick, how do you say "get your hands off my tits" in Japanese?
Wait, before any of you do it for me ...
Nick, how do you say "put your hands on my tits, and invite your cousin" in Japanese?
Fixed ...
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I dug this up because I couldn't remember the date. Beach party is still on for August 15th?
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Joe is going to NJ the day before and coming back that Sat. Says he'll be there in the pm. I say fuck him let's party.
So yeah.
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Also, I should probably learn some Japanese.
Fuck it, I'm not going to. I'm just gonna follow Nick around like a puppydog.
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Also, I should probably learn some Japanese.
Fuck it, I'm not going to. I'm just gonna follow Nick around like a puppydog.
Lick them balls! slobber slobber
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I've been learning the basics, like, "Is your daughter 18?", and "Do you do anal?" and things like that ...
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Fuck it, I'm not going to. I'm just gonna follow Nick around like a puppydog.
Lick them balls! slobber slobber
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I've been learning the basics, like, "Is your daughter 18?", and "Do you do anal?" and things like that ...
So you're going now?
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So far, i've resisted replying to this thread, but now...
Are y'all REALLY going to Japan???
i lived there, for 5+ years, during my high school years. Learned about drugs, sex and rock-n-roll between '68 and '73. Ate my FIRST KFC in Tokyo, messing around before an Elton John concert that i went to to sell some 'cid ~ i'd actually never heard of this clown. :o
Saw Pink Floyd at an outdoor concert, tripping ~ got my pic on the front page of the Stars & Stripes newspaper on that one! :D
Anyway, y'all really won't need to learn to speak the language, 'cuz most of the Japanese folks speak english, even the Joe Bloguchi on the street.
Dang. Y'all are going to have a BLAST, for sure!!! You'll have to "transmit" a "contact va-ca high" to the rest of us!
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this place would have been great in the 70's. I'd be a billionaire now if I'd been around back then shit
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i was around back then,
AND i was one of the first computer programmers turned out by the Vocational schools ~ second in the class ~
AND i went back for a degree from a real college for MIS (Management Information Systems), which included a Minor in programming, and a couple of other majors (Accounting, Biz Admin, and RN, looking to get a doctorate in the Nursing later on) ~
and i'm not a billionaire ~ not even in MILLIONTHS of cents! (Or should that be SenSE? w/e)
Anyway, you're around, NOW, and if you have the sort of drive, mixed with the right amount of genius,
you'll be whatever you WANT to be.
Word.
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*pats FAH-Q on the back*
I know, it'll be okay... I know.
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Haha weird, I went to babelfish or one of those sites and asked for the translation of "word". It gave me two kanji (is that the right word?) that it seems posted as question marks.
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Kanji (correct spelling, btw) is the "common" language.
The others are hiragana, katakana,
well, i expect you can read, so:
Kanji are the Chinese characters that are used in the modern Japanese logographic writing system along with hiragana, katakana, Arabic numerals, and the occasional use of the Latin alphabet (also known as Romaji). The Japanese term kanji literally means "Han characters".
For more info, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji) ,
and A-Googl-ie the other languages.
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OK, as you wish.
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Kanji (correct spelling, btw) is the "common" language.
The others are hiragana, katakana,
These are alphabets which are all used to write the same language. Not three languages.
Hirigana is the original Japanese script.
Katakana is the more modern one with the different sounds for foreign words.
Kanji you defined above.
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Kanji (correct spelling, btw) is the "common" language.
The others are hiragana, katakana,
These are alphabets which are all used to write the same language. Not three languages.
Hirigana is the original Japanese script.
Katakana is the more modern one with the different sounds for foreign words.
Kanji you defined above.
It's like, a 9 year old American speaks American English,
and so does a nuclear rocket scientist;
however, the actual LEVEL of education shows in the the choices of words used.
Sort of like me. i used to have to think in like 4 different languages ~ well, 5, if you count the Queen's English as seperate from American English.
That's why the "perfect" word is important to me, and words have different shadings, i guess you could call it, that convey the ambience of the context the word is used in.
(Yes, i'm a dork. Yes, i actually READ my Encyclopedic set of dictionaries. It's important to me to be understood, i guess.)
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It's important to me to be understood, i guess.
Not that important, I guess.
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Well, one must keep SOME mysteriousness, eh?
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I 'spose.
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It's important to me to be understood, i guess.
Not that important, I guess.
If L-G had a "likes this" feature like FB has, there'd be a "Si likes this" thing on this post.
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but it would be red and scrolling across the screen...
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Unless you're using older FireFox ...
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Kanji (correct spelling, btw) is the "common" language.
The others are hiragana, katakana,
These are alphabets which are all used to write the same language. Not three languages.
Hirigana is the original Japanese script.
Katakana is the more modern one with the different sounds for foreign words.
Kanji you defined above.
Kanji - originally a direct conversion of Chinese characters. The original writing script and language in Japan was Chinese. The Chinese and Japanese writing styles have diverged over the centuries.
Hiragana - a phonetic script that was introduced in about the 4th or 5th century. Derived from Kanji characters
Katakana - a phonetic script used for foreign words and onomatopoeia and some company names. It's also used for emphasis in some writing.
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Kanji (correct spelling, btw) is the "common" language.
The others are hiragana, katakana,
These are alphabets which are all used to write the same language. Not three languages.
Hirigana is the original Japanese script.
Katakana is the more modern one with the different sounds for foreign words.
Kanji you defined above.
Kanji - originally a direct conversion of Chinese characters. The original writing script and language in Japan was Chinese. The Chinese and Japanese writing styles have diverged over the centuries.
Hiragana - a phonetic script that was introduced in about the 4th or 5th century. Derived from Kanji characters
Katakana - a phonetic script used for foreign words and onomatopoeia and some company names. It's also used for emphasis in some writing.
Thank you! It's been SO many years... Is everyone still so polite? i miss Japan ~ well, the Japan i grew up in ~ SO much sometimes. When i came back to what we called "the world" ~ USA ~ my family went to Cali, and i experienced major culture shock. i went from the politness to the me-Me-ME-ness, and totally freaked. i should have turned around and gone back, right then, 'cuz Americans still sort of freak me out.
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
I don't. I think you're Y-Generation to the bone. But I'm looking forward to meeting you.
F - Japanese people are still super-polite. I've been here 6 years and have no plans on living anywhere else soon. Good food, good jobs, good people = good times
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Generation Y? WE ARE THE SAME AGE STOP TRYING TO ACT MATURE.
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maybe you're not - I don't know, but it'll be cool to meet and find out. But I've been working my ass off over here since I was 22 and I'm pretty sure I fit the generation-x bracket mentally.
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Utter.
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
I don't. I think you're Y-Generation to the bone. But I'm looking forward to MARRYING you. *~ FIXED!
F - Japanese people are still super-polite. I've been here 6 years and have no plans on living anywhere else soon. Good food, good jobs, good people = good times
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Oh, no shit, man. i HATE you!!!
p.s. If you should find yourself in need of a Big Sis, just send a one-ticket, and i'll be THERE, in a heartbeat!
Where do you live, again? i lived around the Atsugi Navy Base ~ went to school at Camp Zama ~ we lived on the economy for a couple of years, until the dollar devaluated against the yen ~
yeah, while i lived there? 360Y to $1, and you could use 100Y coins in ANY vending machine as quarters! It went up to 400, but just for a little while, and shortly after, dropped to the point that my family moved On Base.
On the way to Japan, ...
oh, fuck...
My peeps were SO FUCKING COOL!!! They made SURE we got to sample life, as we pleased, and never limited my bro and me. My flippin' FOLKS took me, and my little bro (me-20mos) to see Deep Throat. This was in the days that, if someone 18 or older was with you? You COULD get in! rofl
Well, we were suitably shocked, and pretty well horned-up, and the NEXT thing that happened? i had to save my bro from a "street vendor" of DRUGS!
Then, i went to Japan, discovered Buddah stix, O, LSD and herb. It was ALL OVER, right then.
As soon as i saw the truth ~ it's what we GIVE that's valuable, NOT what we hoard ~
everyone, and i DO mean EVERYONE, in my family had to hate me. That's pretty sad, but they've never forgiven me for not using what God gave me to make something.
Actually, if they'd told me WHAT to make, i probably would have been amenable.
But, alas, it turned out that what they wanted me to make was bizarre ~ to think up things, and/or to parlay my intelligence into MONEY.
My mind isn't for sale. i share it, freely. i don't really need money. i could still live, if all i counted on was myself. Well, i mean, i'd HAVE to become a vegetarian, but i'm so close to THAT, right now.
OH, yeah! i'm blathering, again.
i'm NOT a "fit" mother, and my peeps let me know, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that they would NOT allow me to raise my son,
so y'all DID catch me out, sort of, over that... i'm no mom. As much as i love him, as much as i could want only good for him, i gave him up to the alchies, and just prayed that it was the right thing... He's my little brother, AND my son, 'cuz they adopted him away from me.
And now that he's like 31 years old? i'm afraid that they convinced him that there's a good usage for me.
i talk about "they" a lot. That's 'cuz there IS a "they." i've met them. i was so little (not just young, you know? i was, well, i don't think we have a better word than vulnerable.)
Sorry, Riley. "They" were, and ARE, human. How can i tell? They want human things, nothing beyond, no understanding, just THINGS.
brb ~ bathroom break
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Goddamit. I was just saying to post anything you want in the FOR SALE FORUM not that you had to actually sale something. WTFJESUSINAJUMPSUIT!
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JUst cuz she's my friend doesn't mean she can only post in my forum...
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Sometimes you have to man up and just do stuff you don't want to do.
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Actually, I find you to be a narcissistic bitch.....but that kind of thing has been known to turn me on.
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Actually, I find you to be a narcissistic bitch.....I'm hungry.
Fixed!
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Actually, I find you to be a narcissistic bitch.....but that kind of thing has been known to turn me on.
This explains why you get along with Thrash then..
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I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Actually, I find you to be a narcissistic bitch.....I'm hungry.
Fixed!
That made me giggle, I'll admit.
I like people being nice to me. Can you believe that most people find me to be sweet? Fools!
Actually, I find you to be a narcissistic bitch.....but that kind of thing has been known to turn me on.
This explains why you get along with Thrash then..
We do tend to exchange a fair amount of ^5's and w3rds.
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and bodily fluids...
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Well we always make an exception for you, Mosh.