The Marshall in the article indicates that there have been multiple times over the years that they've learned of his travel plans and they either fucked up or he didn't end up travelling after all.

That means they've been wasting tons of money trying to keep track of and nab the guy...and for what?  So they can waste more money in the courts on a case that was subject to what the current judge already admits was "substantial misconduct?" 

Fucking waste of time and money.

you're talking about people's livelihood there, mister!

My opinion on law enforcement is well established.  

Most of the money spent on law enforcement is a waste.  An even greater proportion of the money spent on prisons is a waste.

The easiest way to reduce crime is:

Create more, better paying jobs.  You could do that by investing in revitalizing communities, education, etc.

Change the drug laws.  Prohibition breeds crime.  We should have learned that during alcohol prohibition.  We should be investing in rehabilitation and education (as well as th aforementioned better jobs in impoverished communities) to deter drug and alcohol use instead of blowing billions on policy that doesn't work now, has never worked in the past, and has no chance of addressing the problem in the future.


If Roman Polanski wants to run away to France and the French are happy to refuse any effort to extradite him, give up.  Don't waste money or manpower on him.



And now I've turned a sarcastic comment into yet another pointless rant about law enforcement!

But the children! The children! We must protect the children from the pedophile living in France where no one gives a shit if he wants to dip his wick in schoolgirls...

I'm just curious what happens now.  I read somewhere the girl in question has actually refused to be part of any trial and says she wants to be left alone and that any attention will disrupt her and her family.

Here she is now. My kinda woman!

i wonder if he'll get his academy award, now!

Yeah my POS Sony crashed as I was editing it. Should have read the article before I posted it. Dave it looks like I'm driving the Dodge to FL, stopping in Alabama to sell some sailboat parts for gas money and bringing you a truckload of computer shit. Including a Sony Vaio.

I think the big issue here is that although he pleaded guilty to statutory rape in California, he fled the country which is a federal crime. So he could get 5 years for the act but 20 for fleeing prosecution.

W3rd; bring it all ...

Any punishment is assuming that the Swiss actually allow him to be extradited.  You can't underestimate the opportunity for the Swiss to tell us our justice system is unfair and refuse to extradite him.

It's also worth noting that the US was pressing the Swiss hard to give up names of Americans hiding money in Swiss banks to dodge taxes.  I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being used to tweak the US in retaliation.

That would be funny.

I have to wonder what the motivation of the Swiss is here....

probably what emp said, to get their banking back

He's had motions filed to secure his release. The Swiss are bluffing. It's just political.

Who do I give a Homo/Fag point to for this?

We dont have Hetero/Homo points anymore... you sure that laser surgery was worth the moolah you slapped down for it?

 I like his movies, but frankly they should just fucking hang the little shit as far as I'm concerned.

I don't mean to sound cold but don't we have more important things to worry about these days?

 So if someone had narcotized and sodomized your daughter, then skipped town, you'd be fine with the local police saying, "Well, he's out of our jurisdiction, and we have more important things to do..."

Let me 'splain something to you Lucy. I don't have to get involved. You try any shit with my daughter, YOU better dial 911 and pray. She'll have your nuts for earrings before the first responders respond. I trained her up right. I think a 31 year old case of sexual misconduct is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

Keep trying, I've missed your non sequiturs this week.

 So, fuck justice if it's been, what? Thirty years? Twenty? Ten? Ninety days? Where is the line drawn? How is justice, one of the few legitimate uses of government authority, a "waste of taxpayer dollars", but the bread and circuses of redistributing wealth (which you have cheered for numerous times on this board), A-Okay?

 How do you reconcile your view that a thirty-year-old case of drugging and raping a young girl should be ignored, with simultaneously supporting the (largely fallacious and ridiculous) grievances of a bunch of self-exiled Jordanian immigrants from an even earlier date?

 And for the record, your juvenile threat-by-proxy does not constitute an answer to my previous question.

 If someone raped your daughter, got off with forty-two days in jail, and then spent decades living the high life in Europe, would you or would you not wish to see him brought to justice?

No I think my point was that if anyone tried to rape my daughter they'd be at her mercy. She was taught not to put herself in stupid situations where bad things happen and how to exercise her own sense of justice if they do. And that justice takes the form of the K-bar I gave her and her brother on their 13th birthdays, slipped between the correct two ribs.

No, I'm not saying it's the "victim's" fault, since she doesn't consider herself a victim. She claims it was consensual, he claims it was consensual, it's the government's case, and their problem. I just don't see the sense in prosecuting something this old under a law that was designed to protect children from predators, and I don't happen to hold the belief that Polanski is one. He's being prosecuted and persecuted more for being a high profile person and not an American than a criminal, which he has admitted.

Also he was never charged with rape, he was charged with unlawful sexual relations with a minor. Stop bringing your hatred of Muslims into every argument, stop twisting both my intentions and stop confusing your opinions with the facts, jerkoff.

I don't mean to sound cold but don't we have more important things to worry about these days?

So if someone had narcotized and sodomized your daughter, then skipped town, you'd be fine with the local police saying, "Well, he's out of our jurisdiction, and we have more important things to do..."

This is a considerably different scenario than reality.

In reality Samantha Geimer is not Zoomie's daughter. If she was his daughter then doubtless Zoomie would not have more important things to worry about these days. But in reality she is only the daughter of two people who are and who should be worrying about the case. For the rest of us, I completely endorse Zoomie's semi-cold query: "don't we have more important things to worry about these days?" News is Entertainment. That's the shame of modern journalism.

In all seriousness, no forty year old man should be getting a thirteen year old girl drunk and then fucking her, and no high profile personality should ever reasonably expect to escape justice for commiting a crime by fleeing to another country.

Actual tax payer dollars being spent on getting Mr. Polanski back to the US probably isn't really all that much. He's Roman Polanski for fuck sake, it's not like the US Gov't has to pay some super spy 1 million dollars per day plus expenses to find out where he is and where he's going.

Call it old news or whatever you want, but really, on a moral level the guy took advantage of a very young girl whether she says the sex was consensual or not. On a legal level he broke the law by having sex with someone under the age of consent. Why should he escape justice for doing something that every 40 year old man should know is morally, ethically, and legally a huge, giant fuck up?

Tell me you wouldn't be pissed if you found out your 13 year old daughter told you a grown man in a position of trust got her drunk and then fucked her, but it was okay because it was consentual. Nigga, please. You'd be bashing his door in with that claymore of yours for sure.

Stop bringing your hatred of Muslims into every argument, stop twisting both my intentions and stop confusing your opinions with the facts, jerkoff.

 Stop throwing fits every time your hypocrisy comes to light.

 And for the record, it isn't Muslims I hate, it is Islam, and I hate it because Islam is inhuman, insane, and utterly deserving of hatred.

In all seriousness, no forty year old man should be getting a thirteen year old girl drunk and then fucking her, and no high profile personality should ever reasonably expect to escape justice for commiting a crime by fleeing to another country.

Actual tax payer dollars being spent on getting Mr. Polanski back to the US probably isn't really all that much. He's Roman Polanski for fuck sake, it's not like the US Gov't has to pay some super spy 1 million dollars per day plus expenses to find out where he is and where he's going.

They attempted to nab him multiple times over the years.  I'm sure it wasn't cheap.  And they're only getting him now because of some peculiarity in political relations that convinced the Swiss to arrest him this time, unlike the dozens of times he has traveled in Switzerland previously.  And that's still IF he doesn't successfully fight extradition, or if whatever political mechanization led to his arrest leads the Swiss to determine its not in their favor to extradite.

So the fact remains, this is political move not a legal one. And ask any Muslim, Muslims ARE Islam.

Not everyone in Jonestown drank to the Kool-Aid.

And frankly, I don't give a damn what political machinations are whirring away under the surface, if it finally puts the rapist where he belongs.

Phoenix Wright Jeopardy 1: "The rapists"