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Windows 8(Read 7673 times)
Windows 8 on: July 06, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
So as stated in another thread, I'm gonna get a copy of Windows 8 for $14.99 when it's finally released later this year or early next year.  Looks lik eit's gonna be a horrendous fuck-up though.  Anyone seen it personally?  I've seen a  few videos of it in action, and as soon as my new laptop is here, I'm considering putting the preview release candidate on this one (downloading it as I type this, actually).  It was really made for a tablet OS with a  touch screen, not a PC, but maybe they'll find a way to make it work better with a mouse/keyboard by the time they release it.


CES 2012: Windows 8 Demo

The sketchy thing is, Microsoft is moving to a "tablet app" kinda thing even with the PC's, and the apps they're planning on use some hybrid of a specific html language they came up with and java to make the apps, with support for older Windows software as kind-of an afterthought.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 01:55:18 PM by Phaedrus »
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
My son is trying it out, I haven't seen it yet but I've heard that a lot of common features are missing and people are having to find work arounds to make it feel more comfortable.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Damn ...
I'm still getting hip with Windows7 ...
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 02:19:07 PM
Everyone is moving to app-based devices.  There's a lot more money to be made that way and it restores more control back to the manufacturers. 



Re: Windows 8 Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Sure, but it's a huge step backward in features/usability.  Like gaming, there are people saying that crap like Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja are "the future of gaming."  If that's the future of gaming then my game days are done.  I haven't seen a single game app on either the android marketplace or apple app store that I thought was worth enough of a damn to actually pay any money for.  And my new phone came with a "Quickoffice" app, one of the most popular "office suite apps" on android market, that's little more than a exaggerated Notepad.  The music player on this Samsung Captivate is the only music player on either platform that I've actually liked, that doesn't look like it was thrown together by some shit java programmer in a few days.  And so far as I know only Samsung Galaxy owners get it with the those phones, unless it's specifically an AT&T thing.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
No, it's on mine as well ...
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 07:22:51 PM
Nah, not the default android music player, I know every other device I've rooted with android comes with that.  The Galaxy series comes with a customized version of the music player that's actually pretty well-made.  It does some good stuff with album art.


Samsung captivate default music player walk through


Edit:  Also I went ahead and installed the Windows 8 preview release.  It's not as bad as I thought.  the desktop's still there, it just doesn't default to it and the start menu is replaced by what it *does* default to, the "start screen" which has all of those tiles.  but so far the only thing that won't run on it is minecraft, and I can probably look up a way to fix that.  Minecraft's always been screwy anyway.  Most of the programs seem to take a bit longer to load, but when they do load they actually seem to run a good bit smoother.  So once they polish off the load times and such it might actually be a good thing.  I'd put it on my HP Touchpad and be happy with it.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 07:29:45 PM by Phaedrus »
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 07:26:03 PM
I have a Galaxy ...
Dammit, now I've gotta go and look ...
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 07:34:36 PM
Yeah, my phone's a Samsung Captivate, the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy I.  You can get them unlocked on Ebay or Amazon for around 200 bucks now, and I got mine as a birthday gift from my parents last month.  I've thought about rooting it with cyanogenmod 7, but I love the Galaxy's interface too much.  It just looks really good and smooth compared to stock android.  I might throw ICS on it once Cyanogenmod conjures a stable release of CM9, but for right now this adaptation of Gingerbread is really good.  I have CM9 ICS on my HP touchpad right now, anyway, and it's just kinda meh.  I hear Jellybean's not much better, either.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 07:35:48 PM by Phaedrus »
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
I love GingerBread, and I have the Galaxy I ...
I have T-Mobile and love it ...

I wouldn't want to root mine either, I don't think ...
... what's the main advantage to rooting our phones?
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #10 on: July 06, 2012, 08:34:15 PM
Making customizations and sideloading apps and such.  "Rooting" just means gaining root access to the phone's firmware so you can make modifications to the system.  sometimes it's easy, other times it's a pain in the ass.  The Nook Color is the easiest I've ever seen to root, since they - for some insanely stupid reason - made it so you can boot from a microsd card and bypass the firmware altogether.  My Captivate was a bit more of a pain in the ass to root, but I rooted it so I could take the annoying custom AT&T apps off of it that I either couldn't or would never use, and free up the memory.  There's a whole market of free custom apps out there to sideload into a rooted phone, but I've never gotten around ot messing with any of them yet.

The main thing you do with a rooted phone is install new firmware, like a cleaner or newer version of Android.  My old phone was an LG Optimus One, made for some French cellular company called "Orange" that discontinued them and sold a bunch of them unlocked on the American market for cheap.  Their firmware wasn't just bloated with crap, but bloated with French crap that I couldn't even read much less use, so I rooted it (pretty easy one-click thing) and installed Cyanogenmod on it and it ran like a fuckin' dream afterward. 

My phone is unlocked and I use a carrier out of Georgia called puretalkusa that sells through their website.  I've had their $10 flex plan for the last ten months or so, but recently I got pissed off at AT&T and canceled my landline, then upgraded my cell to puretalk's $37.95/month unlimted talk+SMS text plan and that's my main phone now. Samsung has said they're never going to update any of the Galaxy phones to Ice Cream Sandwich except for the new Galaxy Glide, so I *might* put Cyanogenmod's ICS on this Captivate when they get a stable build released.  MAYBE.  Gingerbread is fine for now. 

Shit, talking about Android builds makes you hungry.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #11 on: July 07, 2012, 12:59:28 AM
Correction; I have an Exhibit II ...
I was trying to figure out how to get rid of all the T-Mobile shit I can't/won't use ...

Hmmmm, but I REALLY like GingerBread as it is ...
... tough decision
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #12 on: July 07, 2012, 03:43:01 AM
Rooting won't change your current gingerbread setup unless you go to the trouble of reflashing the firmware.  Otherwise it'll stay exactly the same, you'll just be able to fuck with it.

Rooting your Exhibit Looks pretty damn easy compared to the hoops I had to jump through to root mine.  Just download and install the ADB (Android Debug Bridge) drivers and the batch file it has links to on that site, and you can probably do it in ten minutes or less.

Damn, Removing the provider's apps looks a god damn sight easier that the shit I had to go through to remove my AT&T ones.  all you have to do is search for an app on Marketplace.  I had to fire up the DOS command-line interface for my copy of the Android Software Development Kit, start PULL-ing files to my HD, backing up the originals in case of nuclear-scale fuck-ups, then editing them with batch command-line commands to reclassify the AT&T apps as deletable before PUSH-ing the files back onto the phone.  THEN I got to download an App, jack with its and my phone's settings, and finally delete the goddamn AT&T apps.  Pain in the ass.  You're lucky.

Then, if you can find a site to download them from and a good tutorial on how to do it, you can sideload custom apps or I think even pirate paid android market apps if you can find them.  I've never bothered much with this, though I've been browsing about it with my phone the last couple of weeks.

But yeah, doing this shit technically voids your phone's warranty, though most of the time they won't give a shit unless they're looking for an excuse to get out of honoring the warranty.  And if you fuck it up badly enough you can brick your phone, though from what I've read it's nigh impossible to really brick a Galaxy phone, because you can always tell it to return to factory original stock one way or another, but you can and will fuck things up so that your phone's freezing at boot, or bootlooping, or might not even turn on, meaning you have to start scouring xda and androidforums for reset/restore tricks to un-fuck your phone.  so far I've only ever done this once with my LG Optimus when I first got it, and it only took me a few hours to figure out how to fix it.  Basic rule is:  find a good walkthough/tutorial, do EXACTLY what is says and ONLY what it says, and if in the process of doing it your phone does something that it's not supposed to, STOP, go over the tutorial and make sure you did everything you were supposed to in the order you were supposed to.  Then panic right the fuck out and start banging it against the table until it turns on.  You're pretty safe though, your phone's shit is easy.

Damn that was a lot of text.  And it's not even what I came here to say.  I was gonna say how I liked Windows 8, then hated it for the three hours it took to get my fucking video driver to load again properly - a feat which I can only attribute to divine mother fucking intervention because I still don't know what the fuck made it finally load - and now I'm starting to like it again since I'm finally *kinda* getting used to the interface,  But yeah, it's an early release and lots of stuff, like driver support, is still fucked up.

But at least I finally got Minecraft to fucking run.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 03:47:06 AM by Phaedrus »
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #13 on: July 07, 2012, 05:57:19 PM
Thanks, I guess I will look into that ...
It def doesn't seem as hard as you just described with your phone ...
... damn, man; that sucks!
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #14 on: July 07, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
... oh, and Win7 is more linux-looking (Ubuntu/FreeSpire)
... what's the major differences in Win8 you've noticed (aside of driver support)
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Haha I'm gonna get some punani soon ya fucks!

|)__/)
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('')_('')



Re: Windows 8 Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 10:32:20 PM
You mean I'm going to have to upgrade from Windows 3.1?

Damn.



Re: Windows 8 Reply #16 on: July 08, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Yeah, I had to modernize to Win95 ....
I'm just wondering about these other incarnations ...
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Haha I'm gonna get some punani soon ya fucks!

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('')_('')



Re: Windows 8 Reply #17 on: July 08, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
Doesn't anyone use DOS any more. Sheesh you just type in the full path to whatever you want to run and away you go. Nothing could be easier.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #18 on: July 08, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
The first time I saw a computer with Win95 boot straight into windows, I thought it was a stupid idea. What a pain in the ass to have to wait for windows to load, then exit back into DOS to run games (since games were all computers were good for, as far as I was concerned).
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #19 on: July 08, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
... oh, and Win7 is more linux-looking (Ubuntu/FreeSpire)
... what's the major differences in Win8 you've noticed (aside of driver support)

Mostly that it just looks like a tablet OS (albeit not a bad one) with the regular Windows desktop kinda tacked onto one of the app windows.  Kinda neat to get around in, once you figure it out, but it doesn't really work with a mouse so well as it would a touchscreen.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #20 on: July 08, 2012, 06:29:06 PM
So it would be better for this touchscreen laptop I have here ...

... and I HATED WinBlows95 when it first came out
... I thought it was WAAAY to "intrusive"
BOOYA, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

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Haha I'm gonna get some punani soon ya fucks!

|)__/)
(='.'=) This is the signature bunny. He's hard-fucking-core!
('')_('')



Re: Windows 8 Reply #21 on: July 08, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
That Weezer video was cool, though.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #22 on: July 09, 2012, 12:21:04 PM
I predict that by years end I will be 100% Safari...

It ain't necessarily where I want to go but right now it's running on two out of three devices, and as Meatloaf will tell ya, two outta three ain't bad...
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #23 on: July 09, 2012, 12:31:47 PM
Isn't Safari just a browser? These guys are talking about operating systems.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #24 on: July 09, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
iOS, Safari, whatever.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #25 on: July 09, 2012, 03:47:59 PM
iOS, OSx, iceberg, Goldberg ...
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Haha I'm gonna get some punani soon ya fucks!

|)__/)
(='.'=) This is the signature bunny. He's hard-fucking-core!
('')_('')



Re: Windows 8 Reply #26 on: July 09, 2012, 05:54:16 PM
Rube?

Hey anyone have a problem with that DNS Changer malware the FBI was warning about?
Probly not if you're posting here. It was supposed to kill internet access for all infected machines today. Or the Security Shield malware problem going around? Got a member on another board with that crap. 

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Re: Windows 8 Reply #27 on: July 09, 2012, 06:25:56 PM
I look at it like this: If the government wants to scan my computer for something I'm going to call shenanigans. I only let AVG scan my computers because Luke said it was ok.
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Re: Windows 8 Reply #28 on: July 09, 2012, 10:15:45 PM
I use Avast, and download TDSSKILLER and it'll get rid of that virus ...
But first go to http://DNS-OK.US to confirm ...
Run the killer either way; it's quick, and no installation required ...

Then, tell them I said "You're Welcome" ...

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|)__/)
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('')_('')



Re: Windows 8 Reply #29 on: July 09, 2012, 10:38:28 PM
I'll pass it along. She may have both problems.
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