What the fuck is wikileaks?

What the fuck is the internet?

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Dude, you believe in conspiracy theories but haven't even heard about wikileaks?! You have yourself some googling to do, my son.

You're just lucky you don't live in the states and don't have to actually hold an opinion.
Cause my opinion causes me pain every single day. I don't say this shit because I want to, but because it needs to be said.

fuck google and any wiki whatever. Useless distractions from the truth.

Google is a search engine. It has no opinion of its own. Wikileaks has nothing to do with wikipedia, other than being a collaboration of users.

And I do hold opinions, thank you. But nice to know that you seem to think that only Americans (or Americans living in the US?) are entitled to, or need to have opinions. Seriously?

I swear to god there was a "South Park" episode about 9/11 conspiraces.
And the crazy part was, it actually made sense.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s10e09-mystery-of-the-urinal-deuce

sorry man, but you are somewhat removed.

And this means I'm less informed or deserving of having opinions? Do you get information from American soil or air or what? The water, perhaps?

Not less informed but certainly less involved.
Must be nice being the outsider with the opinion.

How are any of us involved?  Because you're holding to a romantic notion that the government actually derives its power from the governed?

All we can do is float down the river and try to keep our lone little canoes in the calm of the shallows rather than being swept away by the current.

Not less informed but certainly less involved.

You and I cast the same amount of votes in this year's election.

>>Because you're holding to a romantic notion that the government actually derives its power from the governed?<<

I think our government derives it's global power from abusing our children and does what it needs to make them feel patriotic and willing.

So why do you feel involved, then?

I'm not American and I have an opinion. When your country becomes irrelevant to the economic world order I may cease to have an opinion.

My opinion is that the Republican party blew this election. I find the democrats less annoying than republicans, but not by much, however when your party is all about fiscal reform and you're campaigning on the economy and the other guy has 4 years of little progress you really should win easily. Smart play by journalists figuring out they could just ask enough people about rape to get 5 idiots to discredit the whole party by the way. That was cleverly done.

The problem the republicans ran into was twofold:

Exit polls indicate people didn't like Paul Ryan's economic plan and Romney tied his cart to a plan that promotes things like converting medicare to block grants to the states and cutting pell grants for college students.  No surprise there.  The math on his plan doesn't even work according to the CBO and other independent accounting agencies, so one would hope that people wouldn't be duped by it.       

The demographics of the US have changed.  The GOP basically has a two-fold strategy that they've been operating on for decades now: get middle class and rich whites and poor religious whites to vote for them.  When Reagan was running, that strategy worked pretty well because the country was >80% white.  That strategy doesn't work as well now, because the country is becoming more urban, less religious, and less white.

The one smart bit of strategy the republians did have in recent history was blow-out spending on state congressional races after the census so they could control the gerrymandering of congressional districts and keep a republican house.   

Wow; and Tru said it didn't matter either way ....

Probably doesn't matter too much, because neither would do much to alter the overall trajectory of economic or foreign policy.  The democrats are nicer on the social policy front, but there's a fair amount of regressive bullshit that has been passed by Obama, Clinton & others precisely because they trade on the front of being more interested in the common person.

They want to spend what we ain't got and lock us all away for shit they ain't got to prove. I'm not a happy American.

No one was going to change it anyway.

The whole system is designed to make change tough.  Even were Jill Stein or Gary Johnson elected, they would have found their agendas stymied by the courts and congress. 

The biggest up side to this election, in my opinion, is:

Obama has a difficult relationship with Israel and that makes war with Iran less likely.  Romney seemed like he was ready to bomb Iran as soon as he was inaugurated.

Israel needs to chill the fuck out. Can anyone explain to me why they can't just give them the goddamn gaza strip already? Relocate their people, look good in the eyes of the world, and after that everyone would be behind them. Not so?

Israel should not even exist today but must for the so called Armageddon to proceed.

Word

I have a really hard time understanding the orthodox jews.  They don't serve in the military, don't work, and they pop out 12 kids.  All of this settlement bullshit?  For them, on top of frequently being the instigators in these showdowns.  Why does everyone else support them?

I've never understood it either ...
They have NEVER been a logical people to me ...

I tend to prefer the culturally jewish, as well as those who are culturally catholic.

Israel really has very little to do with Jews. Except for using them as a resource.

Interesting point ...

Well, one could argue that every revolution or new country is simply a group of near-elite people who want to be the new elites and are able to tap into some aspect of their culture that gains the support of the populace long enough to overthrow the old.

One could ...
Indeed ...

Tru; you're up ...