Wiki fetish acting up today, dude?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3rd

Oi!

Struck:    10 September 1944
Fate:    sunk 19 July 1944

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Oi was removed from the Navy List on 10 September 1944.

Oh, "Struck from the list", not, like, struck by a torpedo ...

Damn, I'm a little off tonight ...

I thought it was the act of surrendering.
Actually that's probably why it was removed from the list I guess.

That or it was at the bottom on the ocean.  (all the ships would have the same struck date if it was surrender, they dont)

Makes sense ...

True. I was thinking of "striking the colors."
Hard to strike them, though, 2 months after being torpedoed...

You're talking about my hometown. I'm not about to say some damn Euro-version is better.
It's like comparing Road Warrior to Gosford Park.
I'll take the city where the bars double as soup kitchens some days and trees grow out of bombed out apartments, thank you.


At least until I move out in 1-2 years...

Isnt your hometown in Vermont?

Also having been to Camden Town in London, and comparing it to what I've heard of Camden NJ, I'm pretty sure the damn Euro version is better. Though I like that Mad Max analogy.

It does sound like it has its appeal though...

I changed my official residency to gain in-state tuition and to vote for Palin and the other guy in '08. My apartment is here, and I pay taxes here.
I did grow up in Vermont though, so I guess to the extent that my parents live there and I use their address as a default permanent address, maybe that could also be my hometown. I've lost all "home" connection to the town of my birth.
I'm sure the UK Camden is nicer. I'm just not about to say it because I've got pride.

Not that much different

Camden UK has too many people and stores and cars and oriental buffets.
Not nearly enough fire hydrants, squats, and broken glass.
No wonder we're number 1 in the only list that means anything.

ok so admin dont have the img size filter forced on them : check.

That  pic of Camden NJ looks exactly like South Baltimore.

I'll say this: Camden NJ is a great place for a photographer. The city is actually really remarkable. Some of the old buildings are built in very high style with columns and wrought iron and gargoyles. The city used to be prosperous before it imploded. There's an empty building for sale next to me that looks like a train station or Greek forum. If I had money I would be investing in Camden. It has waterfront property, the architecture is mostly already in place, and it's close enough to Philly to become really valuable one day.

Yeah it does.  I've walked down a lot of streets that look about like that.  

The sad thing about that list is that I think every single city on the list has a reputation for fudging their crime numbers.

Mouse I got involved in that shit in DC ten years ago. Buy up all the crackhouses you can find for the back taxes, board em up an wait for the gay, white couples to move in and push the blacks out. They're employed, affluent and they pay their bills. It's win-win. Until you learn you are unnaturally reshaping the demographics of a city and preying upon the impoverished. Never again.

There's an empty building for sale next to me that looks like a train station or Greek forum.

How much is it?

I think you have to call the real estate broker. There's a phone number on signs on the sides of the building. Either way it's more money than I have.
The location's not that bad though. Sure it's right next to the jail, but that means it's doubtful it would attract many squatters... I don't know what you could use it for, but perhaps that's the wrong question to be asking. Because the place has essentially limitless possibilities in my mind.

Rape Barn 2, I know, i was thinking it too.

^5

People like to go into inner city Detroit and take photos of the same fucking things everyone else does and post them up like "poverty porn" and say oh look how artsy I am look how beautiful this destruction looks.  Fucking faggots.  Google Detroit Photography and you will find probably 100 of these jack offs who all took pictures of the same thing with the digital cameras from their car windows talking about how 'staggering' and 'beautiful' and 'depressing' it is.

Walk the rails in Yonkers ...

Well I don't know about Detroit, but Camden seriously does have some beautiful architecture. The shabbiness surrounding it acts as juxtaposition. Sure there are a lot of areas like the picture Mosh posted, but I'm more interested in the glorious buildings. The city used to be very prosperous. The Campbell's Soup cannery was located here and everyone was employed. RCA Victor also had its factory here. Camden was a city on the grow. Then in the 1960s came the downturn. Factories closed, city residents moved into the nicer suburbs and the city was gutted. There's been very little improvement since the 1960s apart from the decay of the impermanent portions of the city and what this means is that the whole place is like a war zone studded with glorious relics from the 1920s to 1950s period. Many of the original 1940s-style advertisements and signs are still up even on the buildings that are succumbing to the ravages of time.

Here's what Camden used to look like. Many of the most prominent buildings are still in place even if homeless people now make their nests in among the columns. My very apartment is among the photos, too.

PS - Lucas, I looked it up and the building i was talking about is this one:

It was worth $2M in 1928 according to old newspaper clippings, so with current inflation that would bring the pricetag to something around $25m. Maybe we can haggle.

All i see is maintenance.

All i see is maintenance.

Oh, what a surprise; a cynical comment from banal.

LEARN TO FUCKING DREAM, MAN.

It was worth $2M in 1928 according to old newspaper clippings, so with current inflation that would bring the pricetag to something around $25m. Maybe we can haggle.

So, sounds like it was a bank from almost a century ago.

That screams "secure single-family residence" to me.  panic room in the bank vault and snipers' nests along the rooftop.  plus, plenty of large windows for gorgeous lighting in the mornings!

If it's been standing unused for 40 years, let's start at $100.  upper limit:  $850.