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One of the main reasons I never invested in an Xbox or Xbox 360 is all the horror stories like that I've heard from friends who get completely fucked by malfunctioning hardware.

I'm currently playing a lot of Warhammer Online.

To me Xbox is so similar to a PC that what's the point? I'd rather just get a PC. The same games come out for both anyway.
I like my consoles to seem like consoles. That's why I'm an unflinching advocate of Nintendo.

* FAH-Q smiles and pats his PS3...

* FAH-Q smiles and pats his PS3...

Neither of our consoles will play games worth a shit right at this moment, but at least mine can be fixed.

One of the main reasons I never invested in an Xbox or Xbox 360 is all the horror stories like that I've heard from friends who get completely fucked by malfunctioning hardware.

My 360 has been stellar up to this point.  It's around three years old, so I've been expecting some problem or other to crop up soon, considering that I pretty much use it every day, for either games , xvid movies, or hulu/netflix.

I used to be a PC gamer, but PC games are so damn buggy that I gave up on it.  PLus, you have to be constantly upgrading your hardware to keep up, when with a console every game is designed specifically for your machine.

* FAH-Q smiles and pats his PS3...

Neither of our consoles will play games worth a shit right at this moment, but at least mine can be fixed.

Oh?

My cousin (the ogre), just got the red ring of death.  He wants a Wii now.

*Drugmoth smiles and pats his Wii...

Yeah I played a Wii once.  It got boring after about ten minutes.  I'm sure you're having a grand old time playing Harvest Moon and the stripped-down lousy version of Dead Rising.

I was gonna shell out for an Elite system to replace this one, until I dd some research and found out that they all have the exact same hardware inside, they just charge you more for a black coat of paint on the Elite, so I'm gonna go to Wal-Mart tomorrow and buy an Arcade system.

Actually right now I'm enjoying THE FUCK out of Super Paper Mario, and Deadly Creatures is next on my Gamefly queue.

Wii is superior. I think the sales figures reflect this pretty admirably.

For sure.  There really isn't anything better than a Nintendo original title. 

OMFG BUT WHAT ABOUT HALO WARS?!?! I BE MISSING OUT ON SO MUCH!!!!

Yeah, missing out on boredom.

One of the main reasons I never invested in an Xbox or Xbox 360 is all the horror stories like that I've heard from friends who get completely fucked by malfunctioning hardware.

The latest versions of the 360 hardware have eliminated the issues that were so prevalent in the beginning of the console's life.

Wii is superior. I think the sales figures reflect this pretty admirably.

...I think you're drawing me into a conversational trap here. 

How do you define "superior"?

About like this.

pwned.  Units sold:

PS3 - 21.3 million (as of December 31, 2008)
360 - 27.93 million (as of January 14, 2009)
Wii - 50 million (as of March 25, 2009)

Well, there is a bit of a supply and demand quotient there to take into account.  Bigger sales, may not necessarily mean "Superior", it may just be a result of the Wii being a lot cheaper because, well, it's a piece of crap when it comes down to specs.

The PS3 and 360 can run games that would fry a Wii.  It's a niche device, and in the long run people will eventually get very tired of its limited scope.

It really only appeals to old people and eight-year-olds, and not even old people so much anymore.

hey, shut it. i love my wii.

fuck i hate this keyboard, though.   

About like this.

Basic economics tells you that units sold has a lot of variables going into it.  If units sold is your defintion of success, then you're more likely measuring word of mouth and online marketing as anything else.

Hardware is more cut & dry, and in that case, Wii is far behind the competition.

There's a lot of ways to measure success and superiority, and the Wii isn't leading in all of them.  That's why I asked.

8 year olds like me, psycho, doormouse, and thousands of other 20/30 somethings, right?

Yes.

Fight then in Allah's way; this is not imposed on you except in relation to yourself, and rouse the believers to ardor maybe Allah will restrain the fighting of those who disbelieve and Allah is strongest in prowess and strongest to give an exemplary punishment.

STFU

Anybody play ZZT or Kingdom of Loathing?

ZZT !

fuck i love that game. I still remember waiting at the comp club dist. desk for them to make me a copy.

here's the thing: consoles are toys.
arguments that they don't meet your spec needs are spurious.
get a fucking pc if you want high tech gear; get a console if you want a console.

people don't buy fine wine because of its alcohol content.

What a typically techie line of argument.
What a foolish techie move: to cripple your gaming by reducing yourself to the world of consoles.
Do they have special olympic versions halo 3?

Yeah, but PC games suck, and the other games that come out on both run better on the console.  Plus, no cheaters/aimbot/script users, and you don't have to buy a new $200 video card every six months to keep up with PC gaming technology, or worry that the game will crash every twenty minutes because the game was written to run better on some other video card's driver.

I don't game.


however.

Try playing a RTS on a console (think gampad Vs mouse/keyboard).

and

I like pinball.

or worry that the game will crash every twenty minutes

Shit, my xbox 360 just shat itself.
...
I called Xbox support and they want a hundred bucks to fix it.  A friend told me all I need to do is tighten/reseat the heat sink on the GPU, but I'm not sure I really want to crack the case open.

Shit.

@ho-jo:RTS? Try any S beyond mahjong. I agree that if we want to play non-console games then PC is the way to go!

Like i said, I don't game.

I thought FPS was okay on consoles.

The last game I played was the first halo.

I'm not a big fan of FPSes on consoles, but I think we're talking about different S's here. Strategy games on consoles tend to suck compared to their PC equivalents. Shooters can actually be mildly ok on consoles, although I still think PCs handle them better.

I reserve consoles for platformers, space shooters, and anything freaky.

sorry, should of pointed out I changed S.

or worry that the game will crash every twenty minutes

Shit, my xbox 360 just shat itself.
...
I called Xbox support and they want a hundred bucks to fix it.  A friend told me all I need to do is tighten/reseat the heat sink on the GPU, but I'm not sure I really want to crack the case open.

Shit.

That's a lackluster comparison you're drawing there.  I was talking about shoddily-ported software in the former, and the latter was just my console screwing up after owning it for three years in a smoking environment.  The two aren't even connected in the slightest.

And I played the demo for Command and Conquer 3 on the xbox and did just fine with it.  Once you get used to a controller, stuff like that becomes no problem.  Especially the Xbox 360 controller, they designed that thing REALLY well for all types of gaming.  It works better than you'd think.

But me, I don't really play RTS games, they're boring as shit.