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General Category => Politics, Philosophy, News and/or Current Affairs => Topic started by: Zoomie on August 05, 2009, 11:06:05 PM
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It's one of the best shows on TV right now, for sure.
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In my opinion Obama's biggest flub so far was opening his big mouth at all on this issue.
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ROFLMAO!!!
They missed a bet, there, though, at the end?
"You're one of the "good" ones."
Instead of saying, "You, too, white guy!" it should have been, "You, too, Cracker!" ;D
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He did call him a white devil...
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He did call him a white devil...
Not nearly derougatory enough!
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That's pretty derogatory.
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Well, but a Devil could be cute, and White sort of leans towards purity and goodness...
Cracker sort of says: A dried-up piece of bread that couldn't take the heat of the sun, and crumbles under pressure.
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Don't be badmouthing Crackers.
Also, Devil, cute?
Aren't you supposed to be Christian?
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She hasn't experienced the demon in me. Or my demon in her.
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CST: Yuck!
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Don't be badmouthing Crackers.
Also, Devil, cute?
Aren't you supposed to be Christian?
i'm probably a sort of bad Christian...
'Member when i used to use this as my sig? :
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee57/Fyrenza/avatars/Angel-Devil.jpg)
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Yes I do. I hate that picture.
If you're a true Christian shouldn't you care about this stuff?
You said we're walking away from Gods principles and that stuff but... then so are you.
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Yes I do. I hate that picture.
If you're a true Christian shouldn't you care about this stuff?
You said we're walking away from Gods principles and that stuff but... then so are you.
i guess when i think of White Devil, i don't really think of some hideously grotesque evil entity...
We are, and i are ~
but in my heart, i know where my comfort lies, and i always rely on Him, for everything. Sometimes i drift, only to be pulled up short and horrified by myself, at which time i'm truly repentent, and start out, again to try to KNOW well, blah, blah, blah
i know most of y'all don't much appreciate me talking about any of this, so, true to my title...
<~ STFU'ing
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In my opinion Obama's biggest flub so far was opening his big mouth at all on this issue.
Yeah, and if that's all he's fucked up, then not bad. He had a point, but he shoulda kept STFU on it.
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CST: Yuck!
Hahaha!
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Shhh! Don't draw attention to it or it's gonna get moved.
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the bible tells us Jesus used to enjoy the odd glass of red
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the bible tells us Jesus used to enjoy the odd glass of red
Actually, Christians are INSTRUCTED to drink wine, and for some excellent medical reasons:
A) The iron in the grapes is good for your blood;
B) The relaxation helps you get to sleep, and stay asleep;
C) It aids in digestion;
and the list goes on.
Only took modern medical science how long to figure that out?
(sorry about this, but if ONE thing in the Bible is True? It's ALL true... Using the scientific laws of Logic, that is, which are based on mathematical principles)
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Uhm, ok ...
I started off liking this thread; now I officially hate it ...
... good job!
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the bible tells us Jesus used to enjoy the odd glass of red
Actually, Christians are INSTRUCTED to drink wine, and for some excellent medical reasons:
A) The iron in the grapes is good for your blood;
B) The relaxation helps you get to sleep, and stay asleep;
C) It aids in digestion;
and the list goes on.
Only took modern medical science how long to figure that out?
(sorry about this, but if ONE thing in the Bible is True? It's ALL true... Using the scientific laws of Logic, that is, which are based on mathematical principles)
Does it explicitly say these things in the bible? That the iron in grapes is good for your blood? That getting fucked up on a depressant will help you sleep?
Ok, so everything in the Bible is true... Like people living for near on a thousand years. Explain that one for me?
Is there an undiscovered code to a unified general theory of physics in the Bible too?
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dude - it was written by a bunch of arabs and later edited by some italians....
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....and how much did they make off it. I need know if i should short my stock on the american or go long. I should get out of bumper stickers, right ? Oh
God help me.
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dude - it was written by a bunch of arabs and later edited by some italians....
Ahhh, the original sheep fuckers knew them some science. And that the dinosaur bones in the ground are only 6500 years old.
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If one thing in the bible is true, all of it must be true?
By logic, that's an inductive fallacy - leaping to a conclusion/hasty generalization. You can't judge a book that consists of thousands of verses based on a sample size of 1.
Using mathematic principles, the only way you can say anything is 100% true is to prove that everything is true. Otherwise, you have a number + a margin of error.
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There's a Christian school in this town, gets the best grades here but I know a girl who goes there and she found the song 'I kissed a girl' by Katy Perry hilarious because it's...waitforit.. a girl singing about a kissing girl... And that's just wrong.
Yeah, I'd take shitty schooling over that any day.
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(sorry about this, but if ONE thing in the Bible is True? It's ALL true... Using the scientific laws of Logic, that is, which are based on mathematical principles)
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while."
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They're usually in Daves pants...
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Does it explicitly say these things in the bible? That the iron in grapes is good for your blood? That getting fucked up on a depressant will help you sleep?
Ok, so everything in the Bible is true... Like people living for near on a thousand years. Explain that one for me?
Is there an undiscovered code to a unified general theory of physics in the Bible too?
It DOES explicitly say those things:
1 Tim 5:23 "No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments."
There are more citations that show a positive attitude towards drinking, but that about sums it up. Also, Christian's are NOT "forbidden" to drink alcohol ~ we ARE forbidden from being drunk and rowdy.
And the Logic that i use is one that begins with : If, IN THE OBJECT being scrutinized, it is stated that EVERYTHING in said object is true, then, either it is or it isn't, and you start looking for truths and/or lies. When you keep finding truths, and the supposed "lies" are nothing more than a misunderstanding of time and/or place, well.
i have no idea what all the dinosaur stuff is about, other than you think they're older/younger than claimed in the Bible?
2 Peter 3:8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
Our concept of time is necessarily different than a Being whom is Infinite ~ He's pretty well beyond our 4th dimension, and there are bound to be some problems with understanding.
(sorry ~ quit smoking, yesterday, and had to run out and get a pack of smokes ~ i'll explain THAT later)
As far as folks living for thousands of years, we believe that God made us perfect, and humans were meant to live forever in the Garden, but the further and further away we got from God, the more and more we contaminated ourselves. Now, medical science is finally catching up, and we're starting to live longer, again.
Do YOU truly believe that no one could live to be 1000? i'm sure folks in the past centuries would have been JUST as sure that no one would EVER live to be 100...
A lot of believing in the Bible, and in God, has to do with trust. When you trust someone/something, you aren't on the lookout for lies ~ you're looking for the truths, and you accept that some things just aren't going to make sense to you, especially not about something that, for lack of a better term, T-bones into your very reality.
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i have no idea what all the dinosaur stuff is about, other than you think they're older/younger than claimed in the Bible?
most creationists claim dinosaurs aren't real...?
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And the Logic that i use is one that begins with : If, IN THE OBJECT being scrutinized, it is stated that EVERYTHING in said object is true, then, either it is or it isn't, and you start looking for truths and/or lies. When you keep finding truths, and the supposed "lies" are nothing more than a misunderstanding of time and/or place, well.
People who accept the Bible as infallible base that acceptance on faith. Making any other argument is pointless. It's not a provable assertion in terms of making a formal, logical argument.
You sort of hint towards that point at the end of your post, but fall off the boat in trying to frame some sort of logical argument as quoted above.
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i have no idea what all the dinosaur stuff is about, other than you think they're older/younger than claimed in the Bible?
most creationists claim dinosaurs aren't real...?
What the ??? We have the bones to PROVE that they ARE/WERE "real." Cripes.
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People who accept the Bible as infallible base that acceptance on faith. Making any other argument is pointless. It's not a provable assertion in terms of making a formal, logical argument.
You sort of hint towards that point at the end of your post, but fall off the boat in trying to frame some sort of logical argument as quoted above.
Yeah, well, the smoking herb and drinking to excess and smoking cigarettes has sort of kept me from becoming a renowned Biblical Scholar, so shooting holes in MY beliefs is pretty easy...
Not that i'll change my mind ~ for me, all of the questions were answered, and with one word: Love. i choose love over hate. For me, it's as simple as that.
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I think you guys are reading too much into this. Fyre isnot a fundy. She's good, salt of the earth Christian folk. Not the kind we most often think of as the enemy.
She doesn't need me to defend her, but quoting the bible isn't loved here any more than it is at HipForums. So it's a draw.
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I don't subscribe to any religion. However, I do believe in a creator. I think the whole creation vs. evolution debate is a false dialectic that serves only to confuse and polarize. I believe it serves only to keep us from knowing who we truly are and where we came from.
That's just MY opinion, though. I refuse to argue with people over this kind of stuff because it goes nowhere. Plus, I believe in people's right to believe what they want.
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I think you guys are reading too much into this. Fyre isnot a fundy. She's good, salt of the earth Christian folk. Not the kind we most often think of as the enemy.
She doesn't need me to defend her, but quoting the bible isn't loved here any more than it is at HipForums. So it's a draw.
The quotation was because i was asked, specifically, about that,
and you've got to admit ~ i kept it succint-a-licious!
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Yes, sweet. You did.
But the part about one part being true so all of it is true sets people off thinking you're Pentecostal or something.
I believe Jesus was a real person. Just as Koresh was a real person. The difference is that Jesus wasn't impregnanting 12 year old girls and his philosophy lasted longer.
The son of God? open to interpretation. If you believe in God, you believe we're ALL his children.
Edit: Even non-believers.
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But the part about one part being true so all of it is true sets people off thinking you're Pentecostal or something.
Oh, okay! That explains it.
Nah, i'm a "God is God, Jesus is the Shepperd/Pastor, and the earth is Their Church"-type of Christian. The "tenets" and "precepts" of man are just that, and ARE fallible.
It's sort of like believing in the dictionary ~ when in doubt about a word and it's meaning, i go unhesitatingly to the dictionary, read THOSE words, and interpret them for myself. i trust the dictionary to give me truth, and it does. Sometimes, i choose the wrong word, but that isn't the dictionary's fault ~ it's mine, in MISinterpreting/misunderstanding what i've read.
As a Christian, with the Holy Spirit living within me, HE is one that i leave any Biblical interpretations to, not a traditional Priest/Pastor/whatever. They can, and DO, help, but they aren't the last word.
Yeah, like that.
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i have no idea what all the dinosaur stuff is about, other than you think they're older/younger than claimed in the Bible?
most creationists claim dinosaurs aren't real...?
What the ??? We have the bones to PROVE that they ARE/WERE "real." Cripes.
Have you seriously never heard the creationist arguments? Like, the bones were planted there by the devil to stop us believing, or it's a test from God..?
Didn't even Palin say that...?
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I think you guys are reading too much into this. Fyre isnot a fundy. She's good, salt of the earth Christian folk. Not the kind we most often think of as the enemy.
Nah, you are misunderstanding the intent of whatever I post... easily enough done is straight text.
I'm just having fun with it, whatever Fyrenza believes is ok with me, simply because at least actually she believes in it, and isnt just taking that position because she's likely to get something material out of it somewhere along the line.
Not that she needs my approval for whatever she believes in. I'd rather deal with someone who actually believes than someone who gives the appearance of actually believing.
The son of God? open to interpretation. If you believe in God, you believe we're ALL his children.
Edit: Even non-believers.
Even the niggers?
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Especially the niggers
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Yup.
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Have you seriously never heard the creationist arguments? Like, the bones were planted there by the devil to stop us believing, or it's a test from God..?
Didn't even Palin say that...?
Nope, i surely hadn't ~
but i get most of my info concerning the Bible
from the Bible,
not from TeleVangelist's. (Some of those folks are, well, worse than ME in the craziness department...)
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I'm just having fun with it, whatever Fyrenza believes is ok with me, simply because at least actually she believes in it, and isnt just taking that position because she's likely to get something material out of it somewhere along the line.
That's sort of funny, 'cuz i figure He's already given me SO much: My beautiful hair, to wear as a crown; i've never gone hungry, nor naked, nor thirsty, for any length of time; always had A/C; and He's been MORE than generous with the Herb! Also, He gave me everything i love, for a season ~ it'll pass, and with it, the things i love will leave this reality. But i'll STILL have my memories, as cliche as that may sound, to monkey around with whenever i get lonely for whatever/whoever it was, so i'm content in my heart/soul, hopeful of going to Heaven to live with Him, and as peaceful, inside, as purring cat.
He adopted me into His family, and the truth is,
i feel like a spoiled brat! lol
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Have you seriously never heard the creationist arguments? Like, the bones were planted there by the devil to stop us believing, or it's a test from God..?
Didn't even Palin say that...?
Nope, i surely hadn't ~
but i get most of my info concerning the Bible
from the Bible,
not from TeleVangelist's. (Some of those folks are, well, worse than ME in the craziness department...)
Televangelists? I'm guessing they're preachers on the TV then...?
Yeah, this stuff is definitely taught in some Churches.
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When I used to work for another agency most of the women I worked with were black. They kept saying, "come to church with us!" I finally went to black people church. Other than everyone's breath smelling gross, I kind of liked it. They have a full band that was good but they kept trying to get me to join in order to pay tithes I guess.
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My wife started and was excommunicated from a black church. Long, long story.
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I'm just having fun with it, whatever Fyrenza believes is ok with me, simply because at least actually she believes in it, and isnt just taking that position because she's likely to get something material out of it somewhere along the line.
That's sort of funny, 'cuz i figure He's already given me SO much: My beautiful hair, to wear as a crown; i've never gone hungry, nor naked, nor thirsty, for any length of time; always had A/C; and He's been MORE than generous with the Herb! Also, He gave me everything i love, for a season ~ it'll pass, and with it, the things i love will leave this reality. But i'll STILL have my memories, as cliche as that may sound, to monkey around with whenever i get lonely for whatever/whoever it was, so i'm content in my heart/soul, hopeful of going to Heaven to live with Him, and as peaceful, inside, as purring cat.
He adopted me into His family, and the truth is,
i feel like a spoiled brat! lol
Ok, yeah, but you dont have any expectation of it, right?
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Come on, Mosh. You know ALL Christian have at least a minor sense of entitlement. They expect that living a life that would put them in God's favor will get them a place in heaven.
And I bet they're all surprised then they kick it and figure out that they're just worm food...
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Right.
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Ok, yeah, but you dont have any expectation of it, right?
No, no expectation ~ just thankfulness.
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For your imaginary reward?
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For your imaginary reward?
Considering the joy i've felt in my life over certain things, and the fact that i believe THAT FEELING was my reward,
it isn't imaginary to me.
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Can I have some of that "Jesus" you are smoking?
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2000 year old Jewish pole? You're game...
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Can I have some of that "Jesus" you are smoking?
Sure! Next time i'm up Austin way, i have EVERY intention of meeting up with you and burning some!
Errr, well, IF you'd like!
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I just don't follow religion sometimes.
Some of the most vile people I've ever met were supposedly devoutly religious.
When I asked some of em, it emerged that religion was sthg for "them".
I dunno, I always thought religion was about how to live alongside others -like killing them for having a different branch of religion etc etc :-\ ???
Dunno, my fucking head doesn't work today LOL
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I just don't follow religion sometimes.
Some of the most vile people I've ever met were supposedly devoutly religious.
When I asked some of em, it emerged that religion was sthg for "them".
I dunno, I always thought religion was about how to live alongside others -like killing them for having a different branch of religion etc etc :-\ ???
Dunno, my fucking head doesn't work today LOL
Although there are many citations in the Old Testament of God calling the Jewish people to kill, and to war,
in the New Testament, we understand that everyone is given Free Will/Choice,
in everything.
What you do, and how you do it? That's between you and your god.
i'm very lucky to have an "instruction book," as it were ~ things get real serious, real fast sometimes, and it's nice to have a guide book, so i use it a lot.
Anyway, Christians are called to forgive and, as best we can, forget, any supposed "wrongs" done against us. In one way, it encourages us to sort of just be meek, and let what we've been told will happen, happen. (Let Go, Let God) i AM going to die. One way, or another, it WILL happen.
i could go on about what i've learned, but it would sound like preaching to some of you, i'm afraid, and i don't mean to offend.
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Although there are many citations in the Old Testament of God calling the Jewish people to kill, and to war,
in the New Testament, we understand that everyone is given Free Will/Choice,
in everything.
What you do, and how you do it? That's between you and your god.
i'm very lucky to have an "instruction book," as it were ~ things get real serious, real fast sometimes, and it's nice to have a guide book, so i use it a lot.
Anyway, Christians are called to forgive and, as best we can, forget, any supposed "wrongs" done against us. In one way, it encourages us to sort of just be meek, and let what we've been told will happen, happen. (Let Go, Let God) i AM going to die. One way, or another, it WILL happen.
i could go on about what i've learned, but it would sound like preaching to some of you, i'm afraid, and i don't mean to offend.
Its ok your post's cool.
Yeah my post was just abit light hearted.I mean some of the nicest people I know have been devoutly religious.But I remember this Minister who has wa teacher in school- utterly vile man.Would pull kids hair and armlock em- I mean WTF...!
You know the sort- obsessed with God and scriptures, couldnt give a fuck about fellow people?
I mean 1 person on Hipedo today, called me a motherfucker and shit about my mother.Devout Christian supposedly.I actually used to be extremely friendly with them.WTF..! LOL
To me its like religion can be used well .. or for bad uses.
I always think theres the values, customs and beliefs of Christianity or whatever.
.But to me, the word "religion" just means to "follow withiout question"- which I don't understand.
Oh well ..:LOl
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Maybe believing something that you follow without question makes you feel calm because you can interpret that thing to be whatever makes you happy.
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i have no idea what all the dinosaur stuff is about, other than you think they're older/younger than claimed in the Bible?
most creationists claim dinosaurs aren't real...?
I'm selling dinosaurs on the interwebz.
Does that mean I can get a papal seal of approval?
Anyway, 13chem, but this is the problem.Religion is fine, but when people switch their heads off and listen to somone saying "Scientists are always evil-burn them all, the Earth is physical centre of the Universe", things can fuck up pretty quickly.
Fyr,yes I think the overlap of science and religion is fascinating( despite the tragic past eg the Middle Ages).When u think how space and time and different universes could overlap, the concepts of heaven, hell and demons become a much more comprehendable phenomenon to some people.
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God might exist, because no one has been able to understand how something as complex as mitochondria has been able to be created. There is no way to explain how something so complex can exist and what evolved to make it exist. So maybe people that believe aren't crazy, just ignorant.
http://www.doesgodexist.org/JanFeb07/MitochondriatheBodysPowerPlant.html (http://www.doesgodexist.org/JanFeb07/MitochondriatheBodysPowerPlant.html)
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That's kind of a weak argument. Show a scientist from 1809 an HDTV and ask him to explain how it works. Show a scientist from 1709 and he'll probably believe it's magic.
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That's kind of a weak argument. Show a scientist from 1809 an HDTV and ask him to explain how it works. Show a scientist from 1709 and he'll probably believe it's magic.
Show it to a true man of God, and he'll think it's God's laws, used to make man's things.
Now, EXPLAIN to me how HDTV truly works, ALL of the ins-and-outs?
All you know is that it works. You trust in science, with NO proof, and call me ignorant for my beliefs? We (for the most part) don't TRULY understand how ANYTHING really works, but we trust in it TO work: electricity, phones, TVs, radios, etc. Yes, we have basic concepts of how they work, but the actual nitty-gritty?
You know what? THAT's what Christian's should be asking ~ if science is your god, tell us about "it." Explain "it's" motives, what "it's" message is, how "it" cares about "it's" creation. Too many things in SCIENCE can't be explained ~ we know they "work," but we don't know why nor how.
Same with God. Only God gives a care about each of us, and offers us peace and rest in His love/kindheartedness.
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Ooooo! SNAP!
Uh huh! That's right, explain how gravity works to me science man!
In yo face!
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I wanna know why my dick always sticks to my right leg. It's a 50-50 chance and it always goes right. If I reach into my left front pocket to get some change there's nothing in the way and I always punch myself in the balls.
Science can't explain it so it must be God's will.
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Show it to a man of God from the same era and he'll probably think it's some infernal work of the devil...not some man made thing derived from God's laws.
Science isn't an entity so it can't have motives, or care about a creation. It does not provide meaning. Asking those sorts of questions would be pointless.
Science is a body of knowledge developed through the scientific method. It specifically does explain how things work. Radios are not some magical mystery that no one can really explain - the nitty gritty is deeply fleshed out. Most people might not have the knowledge of circuitry or the laws of electricity and magnetism that explain its operation, but that doesn't make it a mystery if someone is genuinely interested in understanding its operation. There are plenty of difficult questions being asked in various fields of study without good answers...technological developments like radios or telephones, though, aren't very good examples.
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I wanna know why my dick always sticks to my right leg. It's a 50-50 chance and it always goes right. If I reach into my left front pocket to get some change there's nothing in the way and I always punch myself in the balls.
Science can't explain it so it must be God's will.
Wasnt there a story about how in the end Jesus will come back to earth and split people into two groups. left and right. right are the good'uns and left the bad'uns...?
I think it must be Gods will too.
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I wanna know why my dick always sticks to my right leg.
Are you left-handed?
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Ooooo! SNAP!
Uh huh! That's right, explain how gravity works to me science man!
In yo face!
Please don't be a fuktard, nor treat me like one over this.
We CAN explain that, using science.
But it is a LAW, a NATURAL LAW of our universe. Big whoop. We figured something out. Now, we know how God planned on us remaining earthbound, instead of being thrown out into the universe.
NEXT!
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I wanna know why my dick always sticks to my right leg.
Are you left-handed?
It's the duct tape. He tapes it back and to the right. He's just looking to blame it on Jesus.
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No I'm a right-thinking American.
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Ooooo! SNAP!
Uh huh! That's right, explain how gravity works to me science man!
In yo face!
Please don't be a fuktard, nor treat me like one over this.
We CAN explain that, using science.
But it is a LAW, a NATURAL LAW of our universe. Big whoop. We figured something out. Now, we know how God planned on us remaining earthbound, instead of being thrown out into the universe.
NEXT!
My post was in your favor silly. Science has absolutely no idea how or why gravity works, and they're not too happy about it.
Lose the persecution complex please.
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So she doesn't expect it when we burn her on our alter to Science, who is really just Marduk (who has been in hiding since the end of Babylonian captivity)?
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Hmm on religion I dunno alot of its cultural.I think its good that people have a way of life/philosophy etc that means they have an identity in the world and beyond.Whats bad is when it creates robots.
BTW I wonder how many people have checked out that Coolove shit from Skipedo Stone?
Why is it America has wacko cults but Britain doesn't so much..?
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BNP.
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Seriously.
Also, Crazy Frog. *shudder*
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Ah, crazy frog. I hated that thing.
Britain is crazy. And we have chavs instead.
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Uh huh! That's right, explain how gravity works to me science man!
In yo face!
Oh, wow! Sorry ~ the "in yo face" thing sort of caught my eye, and i DO usually assume y'all mean ME... rofl
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Ah, crazy frog. I hated that thing.
Britain is crazy. And we have chavs instead.
Trade you our Juggalos for y'all's chavs! Two for one sale! lol
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There are still juggalos? ICP still exists?!
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Shut up, Fyre. Juggalos can be shot. Chavs are like cockroaches. You step on one, 5 more crawl out from under the cabinet.
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They occasionally produce some entertaining vids, though...
Merry-go-round of death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5OTe8hUAUg#normal)
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HOLY SHIT I remember watching that years ago and laughing my ass off.
Also this:
(http://www.shof.msrcsites.co.uk/chavs.jpg)
This:
(http://bo.gs/photos/albums/blog/chavopoly.gif)
And I think we had a caption contest with this:
(http://cornerstonegroup.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/chavs.jpg)
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Hahahaha gotta love Special Brew!
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We drink Joose now instead of Special Brew.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w280/king_shanesta_11703/joose-3.jpg)
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We drink Joose now instead of Special Brew.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w280/king_shanesta_11703/joose-3.jpg)
For you,
not in a sexual context,
just comfort, eh?
Come To Papa - Bob Seger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD6YEo-GoeE&feature=PlayList&p=69B7E4A6D9A2E19B&index=13&playnext=13&playnext_from=PL#normal)
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what are juggalos ? :o
I actually like the chav ethos in a way.
Wearing burberry because the "Queen" did, and its "quintessentially upper class English gent".
And refusing to work at McDonalds.That makes me laugh really.
If they burned down Buckingham Palace or sthg worthwhile, then I'd give em 11 out of 10.
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Ress, you've obviously never met a chav.
According to urban dictionary juggalos are something to do with the ICP and loserishness.
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ICP - What is a Juggalo (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqEwX9Orp7M#normal)
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You almost don't even need to listen to the vid,
just what's on the opening screen should be clue #1,
and if you watch it, and get BRAINWASHED,
don't come crying to us, mang...
rofl