I would have to say that gay cinema is over represented in the AFI list. In both lists 40% of the top ten are gay favorites: Singin' in the Rain, Gone with the Wind, Lawrence of Arabia, and The Wizard of Oz. I don't feel like calculating the percentages for the rest of the list but you can see that nearly every classic musical is on that list, and a couple of movies that could only be on that list because of their treatment of gay subject matter (Philadelphia and Midnight Cowboy for example).

Man, now I know why I hated my TiVo so much when my girlfriend set it up to record the AFI season pass. It's not that I hate the gays so much, but I really hate musicals, old ass romance movies, and Hitchcock.

along with Magnolia.

Haha I forgot about this. I should have used that as my gag #10 rather than the Ernest film. Who was it you were arguing with about this film, Dylan? Was it Fuse?

Let the Right One In was outstanding.

I want badly to see this!

I am shocked that I am the first to give it up for the Big Lebowski.
I'd also mentioned Repo Man and They Live as under-appreciated.

hahaha, they live. is that the one with rowdy roddy? looking like eddie fucking money? great movie.

torch song trilogy is an excellent film, speaking of gay films. that are actually about gay culture, that is.

silence of the lambs, the terminator, monty python and the holy grail, a fish called wanda, freaks,
12 angry men... ahh, there are many movies i adore.

along with Magnolia.

Haha I forgot about this. I should have used that as my gag #10 rather than the Ernest film. Who was it you were arguing with about this film, Dylan? Was it Fuse?

Holy crap, I just remembered that.  Yeah I'm pretty sure it was Fuse.  Didn't I quote him and make a macro with his picture, it was something about Magnolia or some other gay movie, it said something to the effect if "It was warm and heartfelt".  I don't remember, all I remember is it was funny.

It's different from books and music, because in books and music the reader or listener is invited to imagine the settings visually as they see fit. 

Ok, then what about other visual arts like photography or painting? Obviously there are works of visual art that have not rapidly lost their cultural relevance over time, including films.

I'm not arguing that there aren't shit films that have 0 shelf-life and were a waste of everybody's time, money and sweat. Probably most movies can be classified in that category. But if we're talking about the Great Films of the Twentieth Century, I suspect we'd be ignoring those shitty ones anyways. If 'classic' films like Casablanca or It's a Wonderful Life are so out of touch with our contemporary culture, why are they still shown on TV today? Why does Family Guy make reference to scenes in old movies that most of their audience has never seen? Because they still laugh - they haven't watched Citizen Kane, but they know that Rosebud is his sled. Many of these movies are equally embedded in our culture at this point, while the rest of them will wash off in periodic cleansings.

Speaking of cleansing art, has anybody seen Equilibrium? I guess this is cheating because it was made in 2002, but it has got to be one of the most hilariously bad movies I have seen in a good long while.

Yeah Sarah, They Live stars Rowdy Roddy Piper and is fantabulous. Did you know that the Cripple Fight in South Park was based on the ridiculous fight that Piper and his costar over the glasses?
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWk6RgQbPVc

Oh shit, I just reaslized this is from the "20th Century". In that case I retract like every movie i said except Holy Mountain and A Clockwork Orange.

Anyone listed Human Traffic?

NICE ONE BRUVVA!

Since we're all cheating now, anyone see Bagdad Cafe? Maybe not one of the best films of all time, but I thought it was pretty swell.

Other great ones were:
Cidade de Deus
and
Hable Con Ella.

ok i've skipped eveyrone's favorite movies cos tricky just linked me to the message where she asked me to post mine. 

yes, i did go to law school in NJ, btw.  sorry i don't catch a lot of posts on here.

keep in mind i don't have cable (or broadcast) and have zero attention span so i prefer to watch episodes of the golden girls, twilight zone, and the simpsons on dvd repeatedly in short 20 minute bursts.

in no particular order: atonement, field of dreams, twister and wind that shakes the barley.

atonement was an incredible book and movie.  like many things, i've been become obsessed and have actually spent a lot of time this evening thinking about it for some random reasons. thanks to tricky i saw it in the first place.

field of dreams: also an incredible book. again, i'm obsessive, so chitownoi and i actually went to the baseball field where it was filmed so i could have a catch.

twister: i love the midwest and bill paxton and tornadoes scare me.

wind that shakes the barely: obvoiusly i'm interested in ireland and the partition of it, so this movie fits.  i cried twice during, and about 10 minutes after it was over i burst out crying again and had to just walk around outside for awhile to calm down.  there's not a wasted moment in this movie but i have to admit, i've only seen it once given my strong emotional reaction to it.

yes, i did go to law school in NJ, btw.  sorry i don't catch a lot of posts on here.

Thanks for indulging me, C. In fairness I did double the number of times I'd asked just to heighten the drama. The real figure was twice before. So you didn't happen to go to Camden, then, did you?

yay for C telling us her fave movies!

Guitar Wolf: Wild Zero.

If anyone can tell me what this movie was about, I'd really appreciate the explanation.

Coz I havent got the foggiest what the fuck this movie was about. But you know what, I keep watching it whenever SBS play it.

Mosh, Human Traffic was good. So was Go, and Groove. Any of those rave-related movies have a special place in the holes of my synapses.

I loved Hackers too. Angelina Jolie as a mod chick, flashin' them titties!

Big Fish. Cabin Fever. Million Dollar Baby.

So fucking many.

May

Mosh, Human Traffic was good. 

Dunno about the rest of those movies, I just like John Simm. 24 Hour Party People is awesome, even if Steve Coogan was the lead.

Then there's Life On Mars, blah blah blah...

I liked Cabin Fever, May, and 24 Hour Party People a lot.

Even though they aren't 20th century movies.

I watched Street Fighter the other day, it was strange watching Lana Lang being passed off as an oriental ninja chick.

Go was fucking awesome. And Hackers was great for many reasons, not least of which being that watching it now so much of it is unintentionally hilarious.

even if Steve Coogan was the lead.

Thou must get thyself to a rental store (or torrents) and watch Hamlet 2.

El Topo is still one of my favorites. Watch it with your favorite plant.

I fucking loved the Steve Coogan/Alfred Molina segment of Coffee & Cigarettes.

Agreed.

"Would it be shabby of me to give you my number now?"

"...yeah."

---

I just youtubed that scene, as well as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6EZkIaJcCI&feature=related

God, Jarmusch has moments of brilliance, eh? Both Down by Law and Night on Earth are very much worthy of inclusion to this thread.

The segments of C&C either left me indifferent or I thought they were great. I don't see what people hate about the film. The Molina-Coogan scene was probably my favorite, but as far as other segments not yet named, I thought the Cate Blanchett and the Taylor Mead scenes were pretty good too. Heck I think I liked some segments just for who was in them. The Tom Waits-Iggy Pop scene, for instance, was pretty good and I rather liked the Alex Descas-Isaach de Bankole scene too.

I'll reiterate:  one of my favorite movies is "A Bronx Tale".

Sonny: Alright, listen to me. You pull up right where she lives, right? Before you get outta the car, you lock both doors. Then, get outta the car, you walk over to her. You bring her over to the car. Dig out the key, put it in the lock and open the door for her. Then you let her get in. Then you close the door. Then you walk around the back of the car and look through the rear window. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in: dump her.

'C': Just like that?

Sonny: Listen to me, kid. If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in, that means she's a selfish broad and all you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg. You dump her and you dump her fast.

I fucking loved the Steve Coogan/Alfred Molina segment of Coffee & Cigarettes.

I dont hate Steve Coogan... he was just annoying in 24 Hour Party People.

I hope Tony Wilson really wasnt like that.

what was that move where Renee Russo flashed her tits for like half a second? She had great tits man

You talking about that movie with her and Pierce Brosnan? I could look up the name but I'm too bored to google.