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Gotta Love Catholics!(Read 8761 times)
Gotta Love Catholics! on: November 12, 2009, 06:36:30 PM
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Catholic Church gives D.C. ultimatum

The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it will be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District if the city doesn't change a proposed same-sex marriage law, a threat that could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness and health care.

Under the bill, headed for a D.C. Council vote next month, religious organizations would not be required to perform or make space available for same-sex weddings. But they would have to obey city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay men and lesbians.

Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples, church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city.

"If the city requires this, we can't do it," Susan Gibbs, spokeswoman for the archdiocese, said Wednesday. "The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular. For us, that's really a problem."

Several D.C. Council members said the Catholic Church is trying to erode the city's long-standing laws protecting gay men and lesbians from discrimination.

The clash escalates the dispute over the same-sex marriage proposal between the council and the archdiocese, which has generally stayed out of city politics.

Catholic Charities, the church's social services arm, is one of dozens of nonprofit organizations that partner with the District. It serves 68,000 people in the city, including the one-third of Washington's homeless people who go to city-owned shelters managed by the church. City leaders said the church is not the dominant provider of any particular social service, but the church pointed out that it supplements funding for city programs with $10 million from its own coffers.

"All of those services will be adversely impacted if the exemption language remains so narrow," Jane G. Belford, chancellor of the Washington Archdiocese, wrote to the council this week.

The church's influence seems limited. In separate interviews Wednesday, council member Mary M. Cheh (D-Ward 3) referred to the church as "somewhat childish." Another council member, David A. Catania (I-At Large), said he would rather end the city's relationship with the church than give in to its demands.

"They don't represent, in my mind, an indispensable component of our social services infrastructure," said Catania, the sponsor of the same-sex marriage bill and the chairman of the Health Committee.

The standoff appears to be among the harshest between a government and a faith-based group over the rights of same-sex couples. Advocates for same-sex couples said they could not immediately think of other places where a same-sex marriage law had set off a break with a major faith-based provider of social services.

The council is expected to pass the same-sex marriage bill next month, but the measure continues to face strong opposition from a number of groups that are pushing for a referendum on the issue.

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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 07:37:09 PM
Churches should all have their non-profit status taken away because none of them can keep their toes out of politics.




Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
Should never be put to referendum, should just be judicial activism for a basic civil rights issue.

Would blacks be integrated into schools and be allowed to vote if it had been "put to referendum" in the South?

Fuck the Catholics in the ass with a cross.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
Simple answer - churches now pay the same taxes as regular companies in that state.

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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
Yeah, now, THERE's a Real Christian attitude:

i don't get how the church thinks that the folks they help should be punished for something those folks have nothing to do with ??
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
it's like deporting children of immigrants!
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 10:20:10 PM
I STILL don't get how churches get to hold tickets to political happenings without paying the admission price ...
BOOYA, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 09:47:33 PM
I STILL don't get how churches get to hold tickets to political happenings without paying the admission price ...


Illusions abound eh.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #8 on: November 20, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
I love Catholic girls.




Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #9 on: November 20, 2009, 06:12:06 AM
Mmmmmmm



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Because we know Geek spent her high school years on her knees...
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #10 on: November 20, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
Man, if I had a record player I would have so bought that record!
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #11 on: November 20, 2009, 09:57:20 AM
I would have bought it for the cover, I don't let lack of assets interfere with an astute purchase like cock-man here
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #12 on: November 21, 2009, 02:25:17 AM
Why buy vinyl?


Can you actually PLAY them?  Do you even HAVE a turntable?


Want the cover?  SHOP IT.
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It is just STUFF! Reply #13 on: November 21, 2009, 02:28:28 AM
Y'all need to listen to Carlin's "My Shit is Stuff and Your Stuff is Shit."


IT'S ALL JUST STUFF AND SHIT.

When you looked at it, for the first time?

THAT was what meant something ~ what YOU thought, what YOU felt, the pic YOU took of that moment.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 11:47:23 PM
duh, you buy things to have them.



I shouldn't really be taking this side of the debate, my useless possession count is low
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #15 on: November 24, 2009, 01:03:10 AM
duh, you buy things to have them.



I shouldn't really be taking this side of the debate, my useless possession count is low

Mine is astronomical.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 01:14:19 AM
ok, but excluding neuroses... how many ?
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #17 on: November 24, 2009, 01:54:16 AM
I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks.
ever tried. ever failed. no matter. try again. fail again. fail better.



Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #18 on: November 24, 2009, 06:39:52 AM
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I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #19 on: November 24, 2009, 07:40:28 AM
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I'm a packrat by nature. It sucks rules except when you have to move.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2009, 07:41:22 AM by Doormouse »



Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #20 on: November 24, 2009, 08:29:50 AM
I've been giving away or selling a lot of my useless possessions.




Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #21 on: November 24, 2009, 08:34:26 AM
Isn't that supposed to be one of the signs suicide watchers are told to look for?

No wait. I think that's giving away things of personal value, not useless possessions.
Never mind.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #22 on: November 24, 2009, 09:25:42 AM
I'll be watching him anyway. Hope you feel better Mike.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #23 on: November 24, 2009, 10:31:25 AM
Don't worry, not going to kill myself over getting a cold for thanksgiving.



Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #24 on: November 26, 2009, 03:15:39 PM
Don't worry, not going to kill myself over getting a cold for thanksgiving.

What if it's the Swine Flu?
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 04:19:55 PM
What if its the AIDS?



Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
AIDS is cool now.
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #27 on: November 26, 2009, 04:03:02 PM
Reality; A shared narrative we all agree to believe.



Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #28 on: November 26, 2009, 04:30:46 PM
You mean the one that can't be stopped by condoms? OH NOOOOOOES!
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Re: Gotta Love Catholics! Reply #29 on: November 29, 2009, 12:39:22 PM
Catholic AIDS is terrifying.  If I caught that, I would kill myself.