Do you believe it will happen and if you do, when do you think it shall and what are some logical views that help influence your opinion?

And if you're anti-drug and/or believing it won't be legalized, explain your reason just the same as above - with logic.

I believe it may happen, as a matter of when I cannot concept, only thing I believe slowing down the process is the entire "taxing" situation on weed.

Discuss.

I don't smoke weed much at all.  Not really my thing.  But it should be legalized.

It should be legalized but taxing it is bullshit. I'd rather see it illegal and untaxed than legal and taxed.

It's a non addictive PLANT that grows all over the world. 

It's addictive to the personality.

So is TV, video games, and the Internet. Should we ban those too then?

Weed isnt baned now. ~shrug.

the other day on a talk radio marijuana discussion, i heard this argument:

if marijuana is legalized, the pot dealers may not jump right up and go get themselves a job as a greeter at walmart. what if they turn to selling something harder, and help to encourage the gatewaying of his friends/custumers/others into darker drug territories? basically more bad drugs, seedier world, kids shooting up instead of toking up, etcetera.

this guy was a pothead, and he sounded seriously irate about the whole thing, but i hadn't thought of things that way before. i'm always first to say "hell yes! decrim pot!" but the fact is, i never have trouble getting it, and the people i do deal with (forgive the pun) ARE the type to turn to selling other things if pot wasn't on the menu, namely cocaine and scrip pills. both of which i've dabbled in, and both of which i think can be serious people ruiners.

It should be legalized but taxing it is bullshit. I'd rather see it illegal and untaxed than legal and taxed.

definitely.

It's taxed now.

Shut up, you are a fucking idiot.

It's taxed now.

where are you talking about please? your posts have little to no direction, unless you count the fact that you expressed that you physically or metaphorically shrugged a little while ago, which i don't think anyone needed to be informed of.

Rather than express in a cohesive manner whatever his point is he'd rather try to goad us into typing it out for him by provoking us with his usual nonsense.

I think it should be legalised but I doubt it ever will. The Government in the UK made Cannabis a Class B drugs in January. Apparently against the advise of their advisors. I don't really see it getting any better. They said it was because of the fear of Skunk, not the actual drugs.

Eh, I'd rather do weed than alcohol or cigs.

How about, we don't all live on fucking planet America. There are places where it is legal and is taxed.


not to mention, its taxed all down the supply line in the places its not legal. All the products used to make it are taxed aswell.

Krapsna, fuck you, point to some of the usual nonsense asshole.

the u. s. of america is a country, not a planet.

silly.

SO. How hard was the English lit section of your barmaid application hip ?

here in america i'm called a bartender. a few years ago, the application process for my current job was fairly standard. i'm pretty, young, and drew a big smiley face next to the portion that asked me what i would bring to the job (besides my nice ass). i also scribbled out: "i love people and i love waitressing!"

that's all actually quite true. my boss called me and said "i can't believe you drew a smiley face and wrote that you love waitressing. you are definitely hired." i'm now restaurant and bar manager and probably making a lot more money than a lot of people on this board, including you. career success can be measured in many different ways, not just how one can apply themselves best. i'm good at what i do, enjoy it, and make shitpiles of money. in the evenings, i usually get a little weed, smoke with my friends, and wax poetic on the awesomeness of being me.

really, alot more money and still you bitch about not being able to pay a 1000 dollar bill. oh and barmiad was the word you used for the job. and you also said you were working 4 nights a week.

oh, and your not making more than i sweetheart.

you can't seem to let the issue of my overdue electric bill from this past winter drop. financially, it was a rough winter for a lot of americans, especially my roommate, who had to move out, leaving me with double the bills, and considering it was so deep in the off-season here, my income was less than it is now. plus, i have an expensive weed habit, remember?

four or five nights, but who's keeping track? oh yeah, you are. i'm currently averaging about $400-$500 a night. is this a problem? i'm confused.

Its the only time ive mentioned the bill since you frist posted of it.

Yes, it is a problem, you cant afford to buy a house. You cant afford a cheap ass drug like weed. You have a job that is seasonal ( pay wise). Theres alot of problems there.

i can afford cheap ass weed. i can even afford expensive ass weed. when did i say that was a problem?
you don't know me, but if you did, you would know i don't want to buy a house. so whether or not i can afford it is a moot point. for the sake of argument, if i did want to buy a house tomorrow, you're absolutely right. i couldn't afford it. but the bank who gives me the mortgage loan could, and i'd give them some money every month to pay them back. i'd even give them more than they gave me. there's a name for this...interest, maybe? but this makes my point more solid. i don't want to deal with the hazards of loans and interest rates and all that mumbo jumbo. i'm free of those responsibilities and ties, which is exactly how i want it right now.

there are no problems. i'm happier with my life than i have ever been. now i'm about to get happier by smoking a bowl and driving out on the beach to work on my tan and read a good book. did i mention how hot i look today, everyone? AND that the red sox won last night?! life is wonderful.

Krapsna, fuck you, point to some of the usual nonsense asshole.

Okay, how's this?

Weed isnt baned now. ~shrug.

It's taxed now.

There's  some of your ignorant rhetorical nonsense.

Here's some of your usual nonsense.

How about, we don't all live on fucking planet America. There are places where it is legal and is taxed.


not to mention, its taxed all down the supply line in the places its not legal. All the products used to make it are taxed aswell.

That second sentence makes NO sense. You're literally saying that marijuana is taxed in the places that it's illegal and that the products used to make marijuana are taxed too, which would be what, like shovels and fertilizers and stuff?

I'm guessing that's not what you meant to type, but since you are borderline illiterate I'm not surprised.

As for your planet America snideness, sorry asshole, but you DO live on planet America when it comes to drug laws. See, there's this little thing called the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs (a treaty) that the US strong arms everyone else into ratifying which outlines what drugs are and aren't legal. According to it, marijuana is illegal. Since pretty much everyone is on board with this treaty, marijuana is illegal pretty much everywhere.

Now, the penalties and enforcement may vary from country to country and even within the US state by state, but the bottom line is that you're a dumb fuck who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and a failure at even expressing your own ignorant rhetoric.

So, if you'd like to do so, go ahead and prove me wrong by showing me somewhere (other than India) where marijuana is 100% legal (not decriminalized) AND taxed DIRECTLY by the government. Or, you can just admit that you're an asshole.  

Yes. Shovels and fetilizers. And down the supply chian. You think youre getting you weed for the cost price ?  You want to ignore indirect taxing just to make a pont no form of taxes exists right now ?

and the fact laws differ from counrty to counrty and state to state does suggest it is not banned.

Okay, see, when you start posting stuff like that it makes me begin to feel like I'm kicking a puppy dog or something. Hojo, the second definition of the word banned is "to prohibit expressly by legal means".

Marijuana is quite plainly banned. 

Yes. Shovels and fetilizers. And down the supply chian. You think youre getting you weed for the cost price ?  You want to ignore indirect taxing just to make a pont no form of taxes exists right now ?

Yes, exactly. There is no tax levied on any item simply because it might be used to cultivate or sell marijuana. I am not "ignoring" indirect taxes simply to make a point, you are over emphasizing indirect taxes in order to back up a very petty and futile argument. Marijuana is not taxed. 

Yes, and given there IS different rules state to state, country to country and places/situations where possession IS 100% legal ( western australia ) use of the word banned is pointless.

"In Western Australia, possession of up to 30 grams or two plants is accepted for private use." and thats no decriminalized thats 100% legal.

I would assume weed IS taxed when medical. I don't know.

Nothing should be banned. 

California has trouble taxing medical marijuana because of record keeping issues.  Medical marijuana dispensaries have been fucked over so many times by the DEA & dick cops that they keep little, if anything in the way of records. 

Also, just legalizing weed and not taxing it would be a net savings of millions of dollars per year.  I think California is estimated to spend ~200 million US dollars on just policing, prosecuting, and jailing, people for weed.

Wasn't there just some announcement that the DEA will no longer raid dispensaries?

There was an announcement of that sort, but do you really suspect that a bunch of people selling weed are going to really believe it?

Exit DEA enter IRS.