It's either legal, or it's illegal. Giving the police the option to give you a ticket instead of arresting you doesn't make it legal. For example, murder is illegal. You go to prison, and in some areas can be given the death penalty. Compare that to driving with a broken tail light, for which you would get a ticket. Does the fact that you got only a ticket mean that driving with a broken tail light is NOT illegal? Do you really think that you could go in front of a court and get your ticket dismissed based on the argument that since it's only a ticket that driving with a broken tail light couldn't possibly be illegal?

Beyond the other rhetoric, I think this is an important distinction, and I applaud your analogy skills.

Serious, but potentially uninformed, post:
I think the original criminalization of marijuana was one of the first moves by big tobacco in Washington.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the real driver behind hemp being prohibited was cotton. In particular, Hearsts cotton. Big tobacco probably wouldnt have cared, or more likely, gotten in on the act.

Serious, but potentially uninformed, post:
I think the original criminalization of marijuana was one of the first moves by big tobacco in Washington.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the real driver behind hemp being prohibited was cotton. In particular, Hearsts cotton. Big tobacco probably wouldnt have cared, or more likely, gotten in on the act.

I actually had a whole rant in there about commercial lobbies messing around with the government since the beginning of the USA, but I took it out in favor of conciseness.

argument ? I havent even tried to argue. I dont come here to be serious. Which you should of twigged to from the first post.

what the fuck.

i feel like i'm on fucking crazy pills.

Serious, but potentially uninformed, post:
I think the original criminalization of marijuana was one of the first moves by big tobacco in Washington.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the real driver behind hemp being prohibited was cotton. In particular, Hearsts cotton. Big tobacco probably wouldnt have cared, or more likely, gotten in on the act.

I actually had a whole rant in there about commercial lobbies messing around with the government since the beginning of the USA, but I took it out in favor of conciseness.

I think corporate charters should be rewritten to deny corporations the right to lobby congress.  They should also generally be denied the same rights as individuals, which they enjoy now.  The legal protections offered by incorporating should also include a fuck load of responsibilities and limitations.

But only "true" private sector. ? Extra limitations on townships could backfire. ? We don't have the issue here so I dont know.

Government: What?  It makes you feel good? ILLEGAL!

Government: What?  It makes you feel good? ILLEGAL!

Chocolate should've been outlawed oh so long ago.


Anyway, I think if marijuana gets legalized people'll go mad for a while with the stuff, users everywhere but then in like ten years time no one will care at all. It'll just fade into the background and less people will use it anyway.

But only "true" private sector. ? Extra limitations on townships could backfire. ? We don't have the issue here so I dont know.

Yeah, a distinction between municipal corporations and private corporations is important.

Government: What?  It makes you feel good? ILLEGAL!

Chocolate should've been outlawed oh so long ago.


Anyway, I think if marijuana gets legalized people'll go mad for a while with the stuff, users everywhere but then in like ten years time no one will care at all. It'll just fade into the background and less people will use it anyway.

As a matter of fact a recent poll showed that there are fewer regular users (per capita) of weed in Amsterdam then there are in America.

Yep. And I read somewhere (although this was a while ago) that there's much less alcohol abuse in Mediterranean countries where having a little wine with a meal is no big deal, and the drinking age is much younger. It makes senes - when things are forbidden they're especially enticing, and every kid loves to feel like a badass who's getting away with something he shouldn't.

argument ? I havent even tried to argue. I dont come here to be serious. Which you should of twigged to from the first post.

what the fuck.

i feel like i'm on fucking crazy pills.

You are.