I wasn't necessarily talking about you in that context Fyre.

But if you look at the basic facts, and reason your way through, there are just too many illogical inconsistenties to ignore.

What's an illogical inconsistency?  Maybe that's why I don't understand the birthers arguments.

And i can tell you for a fact that the reason i am so gone on the BC issue is because i see it as our last, best chance of ousting this clown, and starting over, with the two major political parties getting the recognizition (ridicule) they so richly deserve.  With BOTH of 'em sitting there, with egg on their faces, there's actually a chance to back an Independent REAL change.

So you believe the birthers argument because you want to shout "do over!!!!" on the election?

It's not good enough that there was a 2 fucking year build up to the election to first narrow it to the two major candidates, then elect Obama?

Both parties didn't already have enough egg on their faces due to Iraq and watching as the economy fell off a cliff?

That's insane.  You should know by now that every year people clamor for change, then every year people ignore the candidates that really offer it, whether it's Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, or dozens of others.

People scream for someone to make things better, but they can't tell you how to get there. Then when someone new comes in and they don't give that person a chance.

It's like when New Coke came out but it still had that corn syrup aftertaste, then I switched to Diet Coke and they came out with Coke Zero, which I thought was gonna suck, but I tried it and it really does taste like regular coke. Without the corn syrupy aftertaste.

I wasn't necessarily talking about you in that context Fyre.

You and me, Zooms ~ no words.  i promise to NEVER take you "wrong" ~ if i wEnder, i'll damn sure ASK, and YOU know it!   


We're having to talk about "groups" of people, as if we can fit everyone into some sort of shaped box.  We can, and we can't.   We HAVE to, but we shouldn't.

THAT's the way of it.  That's just how it is.  The mobius strip of the riddle, wrapped in the enigma...  All ever how that quote goes.

Yes, especially since you have a black friend.

Which question are you answering?  The first or second?

But if you look at the basic facts, and reason your way through, there are just too many illogical inconsistenties to ignore.

What's an illogical inconsistency?  Maybe that's why I don't understand the birthers arguments.

(First thing ~ sorry about pulling you up by those short hairs.  i got pissed off.  That truly WAS my bad.  Forgive?  FORGET???  Hey!  Hope springs ETERNAL!  But, please?  "Do NOT fuck with me about my beliefs, and do not presume to know how i feel about something."  <semi-direct quote from Dylly, when i was scaring him  >  Especially since i'll just TELL you, if you ask! <THAT's pure ME!   )

It's known as Following The Path Of Least Resistance ~ It's putting yourself into the sitch, and looking at what you would do.  i mean, crap!  When was the last time YOU hired lawyers to protect your privacy when asked for YOUR embossed, certified, SOLID GOLD Birth Certificate?  People don't do that.  They fork up the ID.  It's easy.  Everyone's got one.  Everyone has to provide one, for employement or education.  Making is a SECRET of it is not logical.

Not only THAT, but he has folks that are DEPENDING on him to BE what he says he is.  THEY absolutely deserve to be vindicated.  They've stood behind him, giving him unconditional approval, and THEY deserve the truth.  (Seriously.  Fuck a bunch of anything else.)

That's why i'm on about him being a BETRAYER.  He's betraying the very peeps that are NEEDED to actually make any changes, trying to distract them with this fucking racist CRAP, and willing to just kick them to the curb by lying to their faces, and arrogantly expecting that, BECAUSE Y'ALL BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY THING AGAINST HIM IS HIS RACE, he can do ANYTHING, say ANYTHING, and use y'all to run interference on the frickin' TRUTH of the matter.

Those changes that were promised?  They ain't happenin'.  But, DAMN, did that "rhetoric" sound GOOD!  Well, perhaps not so good to the folks that were willing to research the entire load, but Hey!  John Q. Public ate it up!  (Note to self ~ ONLY promise the Moon, 'cuz if folks don't believe you can deliver THAT?  You're fucked.)

And the "changes?" They never will happen, until EACH of us CHOOSES to be free, and responsible for our own selves.

Sad, but true.

And i can tell you for a fact that the reason i am so gone on the BC issue is because i see it as our last, best chance of ousting this clown, and starting over, with the two major political parties getting the recognizition (ridicule) they so richly deserve.  With BOTH of 'em sitting there, with egg on their faces, there's actually a chance to back an Independent REAL change.

So you believe the birthers argument because you want to shout "do over!!!!" on the election?

It's not good enough that there was a 2 fucking year build up to the election to first narrow it to the two major candidates, then elect Obama?

Both parties didn't already have enough egg on their faces due to Iraq and watching as the economy fell off a cliff?

That's insane.  You should know by now that every year people clamor for change, then every year people ignore the candidates that really offer it, whether it's Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Ross Perot, or dozens of others.


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conclusion: Zoomie likes mulatto chicks?

Have y'all checked out the Gallup Polls, lately?

That's lazy. Media poll's are unreliable at best, and are usually very wrong. I usually check out what's going on before accepting someone else's (possibly corrupt) opinion as fact.

If i was a racist, would i be coming to the types of forums that allow everyone to join?  i don't think so.  It wouldn't make sense.  It isn't logical, and it does not compute.

Without calling anyone "racist", this is EXACTLY the kind of forum you might find someone who holds racially prejudiced views, because it gives them a platform to air their point. And virtually everyone here has aired racially prejudiced views from time to time, even if it wasnt serious.

I'm saying that it is what it is. You don't see that kind of thing in most other countries. Being a proud black man and being a proud white man... Ask any African. They'll tell you it's more important to be a proud man. In Britain it's about class. You're born into a poor family, you go to shit schools, and you work on the docks. Or you're born into an affluent family, you go to Eaton, and you end up in Parliament. No matter what color your skin or the shape of your eyes. In the US ANYONE of ANY race or ANY level of poverty and you can still make it to the white house.

But we still dwell on these absolute minor differences.

It's stupid.

I believe that class still plays a huge role in American society... perhaps not the same way as in British society, but its still there. And yes it's stupid.

I'm still yet to hear what Obama is actually doing badly. I've read a lot of to-ing and fro-ing (pardon the pun) about Obama's origin, but no answer to my original question.

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conclusion: Zoomie likes mulatto chicks?

Word

But he LOVES Strawberry Blondes, Fire Bushes and Fire Poles, so we forgive him.

Thank goodness mulatto chiks aren't into bleaching their nether regions...  ROFL!!!

Have y'all checked out the Gallup Polls, lately?

That's lazy. Media poll's are unreliable at best, and are usually very wrong. I usually check out what's going on before accepting someone else's (possibly corrupt) opinion as fact.

Yeah, well, last time i checked, EVERYONE THAT HAD TWO BRAIN CELLS TO RUB TOGETHER,

for AT LEAST trusted MSM.

What the fuck are you going to do and say, when MSM turns against him?

This was a fucking TRIAL RUN, folks, to SEE how duped you could get.

Congrats.

YOU got fooled to the point of fucking over EVERYONE.

How does THAT feel?  And how are YOU going to feel when the truth comes out?

i'll tell you how ~ BETRAYED.

How old are you, Reag?  Please, i'm begging you:  Just read some of the Anti stuff, and see if it doesn't compute.

If it doesn't, i'm down with that.  But odds are, it will, 'cuz although you can fool SOME of the peeps, SOME of the time?

You can't fool ALL of the peeps, ALL of the time.

Okay, so, now, YOU have erased Gallup as a credible source for info.

Please remember that, and do NOT ever use that site to shore up the tsunami of betrayal that is getting ready to wash over you,

okay?

What sources do YOU trust?  'Cuz, dig this:  i WILL read, i WILL think and i WILL see.  And i WILL use YOUR sources to shut you down, in the end.

Why?  'Cuz i'm some crazy, racist bitch that can't figure out anything BETTER to do with her time?

No.  (Hey, 13 is only TWO HOURS away from ME ~ i can think of LOTS of more fun things to do, pal!

As a matter of FACT, Jack, i'll probably see her boobs before YOU do!  

And if you don't change your tune?  i'll do everything in my (spidey) powers to KEEP you from EVER seeing them!  rofltntpmp

My Spidey Powers = 13?   Could you please not EVER let Reag see your "fitness?"

Without calling anyone "racist", this is EXACTLY the kind of forum you might find someone who holds racially prejudiced views, because it gives them a platform to air their point. And virtually everyone here has aired racially prejudiced views from time to time, even if it wasnt serious.

I'm saying that it is what it is. You don't see that kind of thing in most other countries. Being a proud black man and being a proud white man... Ask any African. They'll tell you it's more important to be a proud man. In Britain it's about class. You're born into a poor family, you go to shit schools, and you work on the docks. Or you're born into an affluent family, you go to Eaton, and you end up in Parliament. No matter what color your skin or the shape of your eyes. In the US ANYONE of ANY race or ANY level of poverty and you can still make it to the white house.

But we still dwell on these absolute minor differences.

It's stupid.

I believe that class still plays a huge role in American society... perhaps not the same way as in British society, but its still there. And yes it's stupid.

I'm still yet to hear what Obama is actually doing badly. I've read a lot of to-ing and fro-ing (pardon the pun) about Obama's origin, but no answer to my original question.
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Man, i give you a CREDIBLE SOURCE, and THAT's the first thing you have to say to me???  That i'm "lazy," for looking/searching up/PROVIDING a credible source?

Please.

Might i offer a glass of ice cold, muy delicioso KOOL AID???  (you fucking FUKTARD!!!  i mean that in the NICEST possible way)

SNAFU on the last post ~ cripes, i'll have to figure it out,

tomorrow.

But For NOW...

Reag?  You don't provide links, articles, nor opinion that could be debated.

You are STILL fucking around, avoiding reading anything against the Knight in Shining Armor.

Hey, man.  Good luck with that.

However, i'm expect one HELL of a Peachie Schnapp's KISS as an apology for your fuktardedness.

And i'll do the same, if it ends up being MY fuktardedness!

Okay?  Are we cool?

Without calling anyone "racist", this is EXACTLY the kind of forum you might find someone who holds racially prejudiced views, because it gives them a platform to air their point. And virtually everyone here has aired racially prejudiced views from time to time, even if it wasnt serious.[/quote]

Ah...  Well, that's them.  i am serious.

If you just would allow yourself to think, for just a moment, that perhaps not all is as it seems...

But we still dwell on these absolute minor differences.

It's stupid.


Ummm, mind if i ask you to NOT include ME in WE???  i am NOT part of your WE, at all.

i suspect that a bunch of L-G'ers aren't, actually.

Who here "dwells upon" the race of his superior?  UNLESS they're an asshole, WE DON't.  (Oh.  And the "nigger with an attitude?"  Could be white person, a black person, or an hispanic person ~ anyone that cops an attitude with you)

Do you put up with that, in real life?  These Attitude folks?

What if i said, i'm cauc, YOU're cauc, and i hate your guts?  What would you blame THAT on?  Oh, yeah.  Sheesh!  Almost FORGOT...  i'm a fucking racist.

Well, if my Asian, Black and Mexican friends don't think i'm a racist?  i'm goiing to go with their judgement, not just because it's convenient, but because it's probably true.  They'll be nice to me, but only up to a ceratin point, you know?  If i have to HOUND them about  this, however, THEY'RE goiing to wEnder, WTF???   Well, actually, i think Sue would hop a flight and be here in a heartbeat,

and Sue?  She'll beat you up for fucking with me.  And she's SO tiny!!!  rofl  But she wouldn't have it, any more than i'd allow someone to fuck with her.  i just can't DO physical, you know?  i've been "touched" by hatred, and i just can't deal with the pure essence of it.  i'm not sure if i seek Alpha females, or if they just find me, and protect me, like i'm some sort of valuable something.

i CAN say this:  i should have died, too many times to count.  i'm not sure why i'm still alive, to tell you the truth.

i would have laid my life down for ANYone, 'cuz it really doesn't matter how you die, you know?

It only matters how you live.

And those things that you thought were SO important?  They just really weren't all that important, certainly not important enough to hurt someone over.

Hey, i'm like, crying, and cain't hardly see, so...

(NOW you know the Rest Of The Story about me using the larger fonts, the different colors, the not usual font.  i depend on visual clues, a LOT.  Either that, or i turn off sight, and just feel,
but that doesn't work so well in a forum setting, eh?  lol

Sweet Dreamers, and i'll leave you with a little music to think about:

The Hooters - All You Zombies

A Gallup poll isn't a credible source of anything other than a measure of what a small number of people are thinking at that precise moment. It isn't information, it's a measurement. Anything read into that measurement is opinion, not fact.

And I still dont know what Obama is doing badly as President in your opinion, because you're either are unwilling to say or you yourself do not know.

And for the record, I dont read MSN, so I dont care if the do turn on Obama. I dont see any of the major American news outlets as being much more than infotaiment.

I get all my news from NPR. Or Yahoo.

FOX News. That's where it's at.

http://www.caller.com/news/2009/aug/01/us-president-turns-out-to-be-american/

http://www.slate.com/id/2224167/

the most a judge could do would be to remove Obama from office, making Joseph Biden the president. 

Oh shit. Where's Sarah Palin when you need her...

Hey Emp, I think we broke her...

I doubt it.

I feel like I could keep on kicking the dead horse for months.  And if it does stop, I might have to go get banned from some birther forums later this week because I won't know what to do with myself!




Also, I saw Sasha's boobs a long time ago.  I was the one who had to take the picture of them down, since it wasn't exactly legal.

 

It's still not legal. Which is why we want to see them again legally.

Ask bagman...

*shudders*

I can only imagine the kind of protectionism that would be going on were the GDP in power right now

I get all my news from NPR. Or Yahoo.

I thought Stern was your source of information.

It's a recession, man. And I haven't held a full-time job in over a year. Sirius costs money. Cancelled it 9 months ago.

hm.. I think I should get to see this infamous breast pic...

I think so too, but, it would qualify as child porno, so it stays locked away on whichever hard drive it lives on these days.

They were (and are?) good tits.

It's a recession, man. And I haven't held a full-time job in over a year. Sirius costs money. Cancelled it 9 months ago.

You cant steal it form the interweb or something?