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For those of you in America, here is what most of the western world knows about your politics... you have a black man in the white house trying to fix healthcare, which is going nowhere because all of a sudden everyone else has a way better way to fix healthcare despite it being a basket case for the last 30 years. You're in two wars you won't win, which will bankrupt you as you try to compete with China economically, which you also can't win because people have less rights and they aren't fighting two wars. Sarah Palin is loathed by every single rational person in the free world. Conan is the governer of California, which is also broke, along with all of your banks. People can't get abortions in some places but can marry their gay partner in others. End.
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This is how it reads for the God fearin' 'mericans...

"For those of you in America, here is what you know about your politics... you have a illegitimate non US citizen niggerman in the white house trying to destroy democracy. You're in two wars doing God's work slaughtering the infidel, as our Manifest destiny says we will rule the world. Sarah Palin is the most rational person in the free world. The Governator is the governer of California, which is also full of queers, but he'll sort them out. People can't get abortions because it's an affront to God, but can marry their sister in others, which all good God fearing 'mericans approve of. God Bless 'merica."


Marquez/Mayweather(Read 3135 times)
Marquez/Mayweather on: September 19, 2009, 11:26:24 PM
About to start. I'm rooting for Mayweather just so I can see Pacquiao knock him the fuck out once he beats Cotto.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 12:41:11 AM
Yay for bloodsport !
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 01:35:51 AM
Fuck yeah!

Not much blood in this one, though.

A lot of people would probably call it a boring fight, and it would've been, had Mayweather just been running away all fight long. But holy fuck, what a performance! MMA is generally so much more entertaining than boxing these days, it's easy to write boxing off. But with boxers like Floyd Mayweather around, boxing ain't dead yet.

The dude is all but impossible to hit. At least from a smaller, slower, and less technically talented fighter like Marquez. And I say that as someone who's watched Marquez several times against more appropriate opponents and been impressed. Mayweather clearly far outclassed Marquez, even despite the size difference, and I attribute the fact that he wasn't KO'd to Mayweather being unwilling to bother. Honestly, it was like watching a cat toy with a mouse.

They were both fairly gracious in their respective roles as victor and victim, and Mayweather only started acting like the dick he is once fellow asshole Max Kellerman pulled some WWF shit and called Shane Mosley into the ring to ask Mayweather to let a fight between the two of them get hooked up.

Now, I'd love to see a Mosley/Mayweather fight just as much as I'd love to see the aforementioned Pacquiao fight, especially after seeing what a size advantage can do  for Mayweather against a smaller opponent, but there's a time and a place for everything. Dude just went 12 (admittedly not particularly difficult) rounds, at least give the guy the courtesy of a normal post-fight interview, and then let him and his people figure out what the best next move is. I love that the UFC dictates what key matchups happen, but boxing doesn't work like that. I don't blame Mosley for jumping in there, I blame Kellerman for letting/encouraging him.

All that said, could we please organize some kind of Mayweather/Pacquiao/Mosley round robin where they each fight each other three times at three different weights?
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 03:35:09 AM
I'd like to see Max Kellerman and Jim Rome duke it out.



Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 10:18:49 AM
Battle of the loudmouth pricks. Rome would win.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 05:02:15 AM
Too bad the only reason Mayweather came out of retirement is because the IRS hit him with a big fat lien.

He may be one of the best p4p boxers in the world, but put him in the octagon with the Spider, and you're in for one lop-sided asskicking.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 12:59:20 PM
Well no shit, but he's also half his size. Put Mayweather in the octagon even with someone who's actually his size, and he'd be toast. Put an MMA fighter Mayweather's size in the ring with him, and have him try to box him, and he'd be toast. I don't really see how this is a valid comparison.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 05:11:59 AM
I forgot that Silva was begging for a match with Roy Jones, Jr. instead of Mayweather.

My point is that Mayweather bores me to tears because he shows no heart. Take him out of boxing and make a rap video of him in front of a gold-plated caddy and it'd be the same.

Pretending to hit Paul Wite with brass knuckles at a wrasslin show gives him no ground to stand on to bash MMA.

Of course it's my own prejuidice, but put him in there against any comparable MMA fighter, like Torres, and make my day.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 06:34:51 AM
He'd show interest if there was someone in his league to fight against.

Why would he bother with MMA, he'll get paid millions each time he gets in the boxing ring to toast some poor fool
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 06:50:07 AM
That's why it annoys me so much that he runs his mouth off about MMA being so inferior because he knows he'll never do it.

He should see what it was like during a Pride event when the Saitama Super Arena was at capacity. That was really something to behold.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 02:35:52 PM
My point is that Mayweather bores me to tears because he shows no heart.

He hasn't yet fought an opponent skilled enough to force him to use any heart. He's rarely been seriously tested. That's partly to blame on him for often taking fights against inferior opponents (one of the main problems with boxing), but also partly that there really aren't very many boxers that measure up at all. He's that good.

Also, any of these comparisons seem silly to me. You seem kinda defensive, and it's unnecessary. There's no doubt that MMA right now is the better sport. MMA's on the way up, and boxing is on the way down. There's also no doubt that FMJ is a jackass, so why worry with what he says?

Honestly, comparing MMA and boxing is like comparing rugby with football. They're similar in a lot of ways. They're both tough, violent sports. They both require a great deal of skill, stamina, strengh, and speed. But if you took a really good rugby team and a really good football team, and had them play each other at each other's games, they'd each crush each other at their given sports. There's room for variety in sports. It's not blasphemy to enjoy both.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 08:17:19 PM
I remember meeting a rugby player in a queue at LA Intl Airport, who as soon as he found out I was from NZ started giving me shit about how US football players would crush rugby players because of their superior size and speed. I pointed out that in Rugby you have to run for 80 minutes straight and have a more versatile skill set, hence there aren't a lot of 340lb front rowers, but he wouldn't listen. Fucking douche
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 09:19:29 PM
Yep. I'll never understand this "these athletes are pussies cuz they don't do what these other athletes do" mentality. I'm just madly impressed by the athleticism of any of these guys.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
I just caught the June Faber-Brown grudgematch the other day. Man I love seeing that little douche lose.

Speaking of Anderson Silva, by the way, I completely love watching that guy win. I usually root for the underdog, but Silva is just so slick, he makes the other guy look like a clumsy brute.



Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 11:01:19 PM
I only hope for good fights.

I could care less which fighter wins for the most part.

I do prefer a bit more ground fighting than kick boxing, though.  Too many guys that end up trying to keep the fights standing are just heavy hitters rather than technically good,



Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 12:57:37 AM
I only hope for good fights.

I could care less which fighter wins for the most part.
Yeah that's fair. I think that's why I like to watch Faber lose. He's so damn good he always dominates. If he lost, you know it was a pretty good fight. I have to admit, too, that he has heart. The in grudgematch I saw, he broke both hands and kept going.

I tend to gain respect for good player when I see them lose ironically. I thought Clay Guida handled himself like a real gentleman the first time I saw him lose. Prior to that I felt exactly the same way about him as I do about Faber. Both of them are too good to be fighting in the feather/light weight divisions. They just chew up their opponents. It's boring. I wonder why they've never fought each other... Surely Guida could slim down or Faber bulk up. They're in adjacent classes, right?



Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 01:26:23 AM
I only hope for good fights.

I could care less which fighter wins for the most part.

"Couldn't care less", you mean. [Sorry.

But generally I feel the same way. One of the very best things about MMA is that there are a variety of ways someone can win a fight, other than boxing's "knock him the fuck out" or "win a decision". Which also makes each fighter that much more beatable, since everyone will always have their various strengths and weaknesses, which makes the entire sport more exciting.

I will admit to actively rooting for Brock Lesnar to lose to someone, hopefully. I'll also admit that my anti-Lesnar sentiment has been increased since krsna (or you, emp? not sure) said something about the dude looking like a dick cop. He so does.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #17 on: September 24, 2009, 09:14:03 AM
I only hope for good fights.

I could care less which fighter wins for the most part.

"Couldn't care less", you mean. [Sorry.

But generally I feel the same way. One of the very best things about MMA is that there are a variety of ways someone can win a fight, other than boxing's "knock him the fuck out" or "win a decision". Which also makes each fighter that much more beatable, since everyone will always have their various strengths and weaknesses, which makes the entire sport more exciting.

I will admit to actively rooting for Brock Lesnar to lose to someone, hopefully. I'll also admit that my anti-Lesnar sentiment has been increased since krsna (or you, emp? not sure) said something about the dude looking like a dick cop. He so does.

If that's the only thing the grammar police catch me for while drunk posting, I am not going to complain!

I don't know which of us said it, but I agree that Lesnar looks like a dick cop.  It was probably krsna.  He's also one of the few people I cheer against...and I cheer for a career ending injury, not for just his opponent to win the fight.
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Re: Marquez/Mayweather Reply #18 on: September 24, 2009, 07:41:12 PM
Haha yes. I agree with this completely. The man is ridiculous.